Against my better judgment (see my comment from 12/2014), I went ahead and joined this site. . . .After leaving, my credit card called and asked if I had tried to purchase some items from `Best Buy`. . . for $1000!. . . I had not. Thankfully, THEY thought it was suspicious and didn`t approve it, froze the card, and issued me a new one. . . Avoid these crooks. . . DON`T BE STUPID. . . like me.
Quoting from the "TERMS" section on GFrevenge - "The sites blackgfs, crazyasiangfs, collegegfs, daredorm, dickdorm, exgirlfriendporn, gayrevenge, gfrevenge, hdlove, and hornybirds do NOT offer downloadable content, regardless of membership type. . . . At one point TBP states - "There is NO download limit". . . then later states - "this is a streaming only site - No Downloads`s. . . You should make an effort to clear up this contradiction.
Hi uscue. . . No, I took my own advice and never joined. . . . I`ve also joined many, many sites over the years, and also have never had a serious problem. . . . In this case, as I stated, I had never heard of this biller. . . . They have an amazingly bad track record, according to the reports I read. . . I chose not to find out for myself. . . Just thought this was something people should investigate and consider before tossing their credit card into that ring. . . . Also, you might want to read what someone wrote in the `REPORT ERRORS` section about this subject - SCARY.
. . . Google CGBilling before you join. . . I was about to join up, but had never heard of the biller. . Seems they `lead the league` in UNauthorized credit card deductions, improper charges and just out-and-out stealing. . . Though listed here as `Commerce Gate, when you fill out the application, it says `CGBILLING` on the bottom. . . You`ve been warned.
OK, I take it all back. . . Received this E-mail today from Matty of Brazzers - "It seems there was some mis-communication on the part of our customer service, and for that, I apologize. Please accept a 1-year membership membership to Wicked. com, on me.". . . Now, THAT`S the way to treat a customer, and THAT`S the way to run a business. . . ANY business. . . Plus, its important to note that these guys are actually monitoring forums like this - that shows they care what we think, and are making a legitimate effort to keep us happy. I think that sets Brazzers apart from most of these sites. . . Thank you very much, Matty - You`ve earned a loyal customer in me (and, I`m sure, in anyone who reads this). . . Much appreciation.
. . . to avoid. Last year, I was a Brazzers member for several months. During that tenure I purchased a `LIFETIME` membership in `Wicked Pictures (for $69.95) - valid whenever I`m an active member with Brazzers. . . Before my purchase, I `chatted` with support and SPECIFICALLY asked - `If I cancel, and renew at a later date, does my Wicked account renew, as well?`. . . The answer was `Yes`. . . Upon not being able to log-in with Wicked (after renewing Brazzers this week) I `chatted` again. This time, the answer was `You had access to Wicked - as long as your ORIGINAL Brazzers Membership was active - I guess the label `LIFETIME` is a tad misleading, huh!!!! You`ve been warned.
Are they scumbags? Yep. . . Do they try their darndest to trick you and rip you off?? Undoubtedly. . . That being said, I still joined a 2nd time (after an `unsuspected billing` my 1st time - cleared up immediately by their support). . . I got an E-Mail offer for $7.97/mo. and took it. . . I was then offered their `Spanish named` package at the same discount. I took that, too. . . I gotta tell ya - THOSE sites were a complete surprise and an extraordinary revelation. Expecting a parade of unnamed Latina sluts, there was a multitude of anal scenes with Asa Akira, Kristina Rose, Diamond Kitty, Anissa Kate, Ivana Sugar and many more American and European sluts - Much better than ANYTHING on their `main site`!!. . . As joekramer said, just take care what you click on (If you`re REALLY concerned, get one of those refillable cards to use here). . . Nobody WANTS to deal with a site like this - but don`t cut your nose off to spite your face. . . There is some tremendous stuff hidden away on this package.
Great talking with you, Pat. . . Always beneficial to discuss a topic with 1) Someone who is so knowledgeable on the subject, and 2) Someone who can intelligently express their views. . . . You certainly ace both those qualifications. . . Keep up the good work.
Yeah, Pat, the last time I was there I recall 2 or 3 girls who came to their senses and walked off the set about 8-10 minutes into a scene. . . Wondering what you think of some of the sites on Kink.com. . . I was there a few months ago, and some of the gangbang scenes (with a kidnap/rape plot) and some of the Public Disgrace scenes went pretty far too. But, it appears the producers and directors go out of their way to explain to the star exactly what`s going to happen, and are genuinely concerned that they are safe and comfortable. . . On a lighter and happier note, I just received an E-Mail from Adult Doorway indicating I would be getting a full refund.
Wouldn`t call myself a "fan", but I do like to see some rough stuff every now and then. . . That being said, no argument, this is, far and away, THE single most abusive site on the web - After D/L-ing a scene, I have to edit out a lot of the choking and forced vomiting (and the re-consumption of the vomit!). . . Amazingly though, there are some big name stars here (and not at the start of their careers) - like Tory Lane, Amber Rayne, Mika Tan, etc. . . And, admittedly, some girls, at the end of their scenes, look like they`ve just been anally gangbanged at a biker bar. . . But, then there are others who RETURN a 2nd or 3rd time. Go figure. . . Suffice it to say, this ain`t Vivid. . . .My point was, whether you watch this kind of stuff or not, having to literally wait MINUTES after every click you make is unacceptable for ANY site.
You kinda glossed over that one change - Download Format. No longer available - WMV downloading of any quality (not a big deal for me) and NO Downloading of 5-minute clips at all (HUGE deal-breaker for me). . . What we are left with are - Take the full video or take nothing, and, if you do take the full video, you have but 2 choices - 1080 or 540 - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!. . . You can call this an upgrade all you want, but to my eyes, this is a SERIOUS step backward.
HA, HA, 1 year later, its nice to see this site has 1 thing going for it - Consistency. . . After several futile tries to log in, you`ll find interminable waits to switch from page to page. . . Mind-numbing delays to watch a scene, after hitting `PLAY`. . . It takes MINUTES to accomplish anything here. . . Support was very courteous, and tried to be helpful, but in the end, nothing works. . . You`d be better off flushing your money down the toilet - less aggravation. . . STAY AWAY
Interminable waits to log in. . . Literally, MINUTES to switch from page to page, or to play a scene. . . .Support was very cordial, and tried to be helpful (clear cookies, try Chrome or Firefox, etc. - none of which worked), but the bottom line is. . . I have neither the time, nor the inclination to sit there and wait forever for 5- year- old scenes (which comprise 90% of this site and their sister sites - Ghetto, and Hardcore Doorway. . . You`d be better off flushing your money down the toilet - less aggravation.. . STAY AWAY!
The offer I received was also for 10 sites (one of them being `Dancing Bear`). . . They did not alert me to anything (I happened to notice there was no "Add Site" link under `Dancing Bear`). . . I almost would have let it slide if I had received the 10 site package, but it was $29.95 for `Dancing Bear` only (that being the only site that didn`t have "Add Site" under it). . . .I also recall another warning posted a while back about this site - If, at some time in the future, you log in to see what`s new - Guess what, you`re automatically subscribed again (This is not verified by me). . . Be Careful with these scumbags.
I want to take a moment to thank the members of this site, for warning us about Bang Bros` shady business practices. . . I recently concluded a very enjoyable 2-month stay there. . . Upon cancellation, I, too, was offered a discount package, which I declined. . . Just to allay my suspicions, and since I had a few days remaining, I logged back in and, lo and behold, I now had access to a separate site - `Dancing Bear`. . . I immediately checked my card online and found a new charge for $29.95!. . . I called their support and they cancelled it (although they said it would take 7-10 days - It only took them 7-10 MINUTES to charge it!). . . They did send a cancellation confirmation. . . If it wasn`t for all of your warnings, I would never have known about it.
Thanks Pat, for another terrific review. . . Just 1 question. . .I was just looking at the sample (1:00) videos on their site and I noticed that they all had slo-mo segments in them. I was just wondering if this is something they did for their trailers, or are there slo-mo segments in the actual scenes (which I can`t stand). Thanx.
Just one last word on the subject - I visited the Videosz site and didn`t find any reference to that Hustler offer. . . I suspect, if, in fact, it exists, it would probably be free ACCESS to the Hustler website, which (we both agree is worthless). . . And, one last, last word - Don`t know if you`re aware or not, but, if you go to Videosz, you can literally see every DVD that they have. And, they allow you to click on any DVD, and see the screencaps for each scene in that DVD. Good Luck, my friend.
BTW, You mentioned your inkling to join Hustler. . . I would advise you to read the reviews of that site. . . Almost to a man, they decried the substandard picture quality of their videos. . .I, of course, ignored them. . . Well. they were right and I was wrong. . . Absolutely, the worst I`ve ever seen, for a supposedly big name company. . . I was stuck for 30 days and didn`t D/L a single scene.
@hodayathink - While there is, obviously, a huge amount of duplication between the 2 sites, I believe the main distinguishing differences are - Videobox offers free access to dozens and dozens of DVDs from Anabolic Studios, and Jules Jordan Studios. . In addition, they have paid access to Evil Angel, Vivid, Reality Kings, Kink, and Elegant Angel DVDs . . .About the only products that I know of that are exclusive to Videosz (aside from random videos) are the ever-growing (currently about 65 titles) recently added Max Hardcore DVDs - under his various titles (starting about 8 months ago); the older Baker`s Dozen series of terrific blowbang videos; and the old Eromaxx orgy series. . . I KNOW i`m leaving some out, but those are the main ones.
Thanx for your recent review. You`re obviously about 10 light years ahead of me, regarding the various technical aspects of a site. . .I was on this site for 3 months last year (April-June). Usually, I spent a couple of hours a day, viewing and downloading. I probably DL`ed 150-200 scenes. . . Never saw any "Upgrades" or "Downgrades". . .Never had slowing site problems, or disappearing videos. . . All my DL`s (no 1080`s) look as good, if not better than those from other sites. Has the site changed since last year? Or am just too dense to have noticed all this?
So, if you take a moment to explain what you meant by 1) a throttled user; 2)an upgrading site, 3)disappearing videos; and 4)how does the quality change if you`re more than a casual user?. . .Please dumb-down your answer into layman`s terms so I might understand it. Thanks.
Hey pat, I was just wondering why you state "I know that I will NEVER join" ass factory. . . .I was a member there last year and thought it had superior content. Is it the fact that the site is new (with a small number of scenes), or the fact that their updates are incredibly slow (Only 25 new scenes were added in the 8+ months since I left them). . . or is there another reason?
I recently revisited Naughty America (my 3rd time), utilizing their recent $5 / month special. . .I knew going in that N.A. was not the rauunch-fest that other sites provide (No gang-bangs, DPs, and very little anal). . .But, I was somewhat taken aback by the uninspired, mechanical sex, with lame set-ups and unflattering camera work in most of the newer scenes. . .I found some scenes from 2010-11 that I had missed before which were hot, but the recent scenes just left me cold. . . One other word of caution - While I didn`t D/L many new scenes, their comment pages were absolutely littered with complaints about broken links and other technical problems. Again, no 1st-hand knowledge on this.
Not sure what you`re referring to. . . I`ve been a member for several years now, and what struck me was the OUTSTANDING preview that they offered. . .By using the blue buttons at the top of the page you can examine, and click on every single pornstar, movie, or even scene (minus the KINK premium channel) on the entire site. You can even "thumbnail-prevew" every scene. . . When I read your comment today, I went to the page, but didn`t log in just to see. . . For me, I was still able to do what I just described. . .Possibly try using a different browser (I use I.E.) Good Luck.
You are, of course, correct. . . But, the point I was trying to make was, as a VB member, you can get access to their current list of Elegant Angel movies for a TOTAL cost of $2.00 (Simply wait until the last 3-4 days of your monthly VB subscription to "jump in", DL, and "jump out".. . .Also, since many of Elegant Angel`s scenes are close to an hour, the custom-clip feature at VB comes in real handy. . .Anyway, it was just a thought. . I enjoy your comments. . Have a Merry Christmas.
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