Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
02-19-1112:06am (Update History) Reason: Download links now provided to pictures - see my edit notes.
- Good photography
- Fairly unique content
- Pretty models
- Nice outfits and (obviously) great nylons
- Some good mild-fetish wear
- Many location/outdoor shoots
- Some entertaining videos
- Downloading pictures was a mildly diverting intellectual challenge
- Arguably not much actual nudity (depends on your definition)
- Max resolution of 1200x800px; videos at 320x640
- Frequent timeouts of login
- Only one connection allowed - eg can't open a gallery while viewing a video
- No zip sets
- No video download
- No model index
- No update schedule, or dating of sets
I recently saw some pictures from Pantyhose-X - a German nylon fetish magazine (unsure whether print or only online). The few sets that I saw, I loved, and decided to seek out and join the source. I'm not sure of the details, but reading between the lines, I suspect that some change of ownership has been involved recently; pantyhose-x.com becoming nylon-x-files.com with content from the former. I also rather suspect that the changes are not for the best.
First the good.
This is obviously very nylon-oriented material - and more to the point, it's very fetishistic. By which I mean that it focuses very much on the sheerness of it; in fact in the majority of the sets, the tights don't come off at all. Some of them are gusseted and you don't see that much, other than them pulled up tight into the model's pussy; others are seamless and sheer and there are plenty of closeups of the girls masturbating through and under the nylon. The rest of the clothing is great too - from casual and businesswear, to things like corsets, high lace-up boots, PVC miniskirts etc.
The models too are pretty - not too glam or polished (maybe some peroxide), some girl-next-door types - but great figures and legs (of course!). And the photography is great - with a lot of shoots outdoors and in public places - some quite risqué stuff which is kind of exciting.
My only gripe with the content is my usual - most models are shaved, and given the nature of this style, that you get to glimpse them through the sheer nylon, I can't help feeling that even a trimmed strip or patch of hair would be something more to glimpse.
Although I love the material, the presentation of it is the worst I've come across. Having emailed the webmaster to check, I knew about the resolution (it seems to have suffered in the transition, from the 1800px sets that seem to have been offered by pantyhose-x) and the lack of zips - but figured I'd give it a try.
The members area is very basic, just a list of sets with no dating, model names, or sorting/searching features for the 150 odd sets available.
**Edit** When I first wrote the review, there was no download of anything - not even individual pictures - you could only view on screen in a lightbox-type viewer, which made me mark it down heavily. But the site does now offer download links to pictures; there are still no zips, but this small change makes it easy to download a set with a manager, eg downThemAll.
The site still has issues as in the cons above, but this small change makes it seem far less mean-spirited, and is enough to bump my score from 65 to 75 - it's now recommended if you like this material (and can use a download manager!)
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
01-07-1111:09am (Update History) Reason: Minor score change; think I set the bar a bit high to start with...
- Mainly pretty, amateur-looking, natural girls
- Some videos have them chatting, which I like
- Great legwear, Wolford tights etc
- Not just tights as the name suggests, stockings also
- Last updates seem to be from 6 weeks ago; update schedule AWOL since 2009; actual update material dated 2008
- Quality is not great; older videos at 480x360, newer 640x480 or 700x400
- Same for photo shoots; some at 1500x1000, others seem to be captures at 640x480 or 960x540
- Some videos have ludicrous music over them
- Some - luckily not many - have the cameraman talking and lending a hand - not really what the material here is about
- Listings are basic - just straight list, with thumbnails, of albums and movies; no sort, filter etc
- Not many unshaved girls, and only a couple of girl-girl videos
I've got a much bigger list of cons than pros, and given that, my score might seem a little high. Especially as the site is pretty dated looking - content seems to be from 2000-2008, and has the bare minimum of navigation to get round the 200-odd movies, and similar number of photo sets.
However, I do like the material. The girls are cute, unpretentious, pretty without being too glammed-up. Also a few familiar names there, perhaps from before they were so well-known (eg Sunny Leone, Bree Olsen, Mai Ly).
Videos are almost all solo, some good teasing to start with, and as per the niche, some clothing tends to remain on - with panties pulled aside, or tights pulled down but remaining on while the models masturbate; some with toys, others just with fingers.
Oh, and there is some GREAT legwear. I like tights and stockings, but there are some videos here with some impressively patterned Wolfords etc, which is a big turn-on for me. There are a few nylon sites around, but featuring really sexy tights like these seems fairly rare.
I joined on a 3-day trial - well worth it, but you can likely get all you need within that 3 days.
It also comes with access to Amateur Upskirts - some of the same models, but it's more lollipop/pigtails/barely-legal themed, which isn't really my thing.
Hi Advent - many thanks for the quick reply. I've emailed you with more details - I'm curious more than anything, as I'm sure you wouldn't knowingly give emails away! Anyway, take a look and let me know.
I recently changed my email address, to counter the various spam I was getting, and took the step of creating an alias for every site I signed up to. Eg if my email address is email@example.com, I'd create firstname.lastname@example.org when signing up to Saucy Site. The logic being that, if you start to receive unsolicited spam, the address it comes to will tell you where they found you - and you can just ditch that address if that happens.
Anyway, after signing up here, I started getting some random spammy things - not at all related to ATK or any other paysites - to the address I set up for ATK. So perhaps they are leaking addresses somewhere...?
Am avoiding irateness here, in case a plausible explanation turns up :)
Hmm - I recall a comment recently about We Are Hairy - the price having gone up from $25 to $35. Seeing as these two sites are close competitors, I guess they figured they could/should match it. A shame since I'd be tempted to join here - but much of the content (ie the hairy everything kind) doesn't really work for me.
Like Parsnip, I don't necessarily have an issue with this. Like with file sizes on jpgs, bitrate doesn't necessarily define the quality; it also depends on the codec settings and the source material.
Not sure what it is on 1080, but the 720 videos I downloaded from SexArt and The Life Erotic are 2,000K and they look just fine - their style (whether you like it or not) is a little soft, which can contribute to the low bitrate rather than the other way around.
I did download 10,000K 720 videos from Twistys and it was a waste of space - I reencoded them at 4,000K with no discernable difference.
Actually, I don't mind artsy nonsense... as long as it's not at the expense of actual arousal!
A couple of things you may want to check out too: if you've not joined Babes, it's not quite SexArt or Joymii, but it's still good if you are looking for more similar material.
And if you aren't already familiar with him, look up Roy Stuart - also a bit of an auteur, but the material works better. There's some (very tame) stuff of his on Met Art; but if you want the B/G material, I think it's either the books or his own DVDs.
Hi Parsnip - another good review, of a site which so far is my favourite sex site. Although SexArt is pretty close, I found the styling, lighting, colours here good and evocative - and the scenes erotic but not overly pretentious or artsy.
I recently received their newsletter on the subject of anal sex - like you, it doesn't really work for me but as and when I rejoin, I'm pragmatic enough to ignore it if there isn't too much. I just hope that further to your exchange with the webmaster, they don't overdo it - there's plenty of places for folk that like it to see it; not so many for those of us that don't and it would be a shame to lose one.
Another interesting review, thanks. I've been tempted by this - like you I've received offers, being a member at TLE. I sort of half-dismissed it as overly-stylised artsy daftness - but it sounds harder than I'd suspected. My interest in fetish lies in the glam side, nylons and latex - not so much in S&M and the like - sounds like this would be a turn-off for me at best. Probably one I'd be better off avoiding!
Another great and helpful review. I quite enjoyed this site when I was there - although I usually watch solo, BG material is why I tend to join these heartcore sites, and what I found here was good.
Like you, I did, however, find it let down a little by the lack of variety of models - the vast majority 18-21 slim caucasian girls. But either way, a shame that maybe the quality has gone down since I was there - and especially that they are going for more extreme material.
Another great review - and again, your views on the site are very similar to mine. Assume somebody's arse got kicked around the beginning of 2012, since material before then is largely generic and uninspired - if anyone joined before then, note that the last 2 years of material is completely different.
And Paul Black's material is certainly a standout - also Chris King and Oliver Nation. I do feel they could all be a bit less dark - there's atmospheric and there's not being able to see much - but it's only a minor thing. I also like Sebastien Michel - his pics are among the few inspiring ones at Met Art.
Have you tried Breath Takers and/or Girlfolio? (Same photographer at each). Quite soft, but I think you may like the style - I think I will subscribe to the latter next.
Looking forward to your TLE review - it's one of my favourite sites and the one I have a 1 year membership to. As you say, they often get the pictures right - make them genuinely erotic where Met Art (and SexArt on the photo side) fail.
BTW you may also like Babes - it's a little formulaic, but still not at all bad.
Great review and welcome. I've just spent a couple of days at this site - a trial for being a member at TLE - and found much the same as you. The only real difference being that I thought the early arty, body-painting ones etc were too daft; I prefer the more recent more ordinary ones.
But otherwise concur - this is good stuff, well made and respectful. Like you I'm not a fan of anal and don't really feel it belongs in (although others are free to disagree!) in this kind of heartcore site, so I'm glad they've not done it here.
And agree completely about the pics! I find Met Art pics entirely insipid and the one here are too - I don't know how they are so unerotic when the videos are so good.
I also like that that it's not wholly fixated on 18-21 year olds, but still I'd like to see a few more girls 25-30+. Not sure if this beats Joymii, my favourite sex site so far, but it is good.
Many thanks for your reply - great to have some webmaster feedback here, especially from one of my favourite sites. Good news on the back button etc - I'm a web developer myself and try not to overuse the AJAX as stuff like that can be a bit glitchy.
On the regional pricing - it's not really valid to compare to eg Apple - they are dependent on local costs - rent, wages, etc - and even for digital content they have the rights holder involved. On top of which, here in the UK we have 20% sales tax, which unfortunately has to be taken into account also.
But I'm pretty sure that adult sites like Joymii do not incur any per-sale additional costs when selling to a user in Europe or elsewhere. Please let me know if I'm missing something! If you are eg VAT registered in Europe, than I'll gladly (well, begrudgingly, but not to you) take the 20% hit...
I'm a fan of Joymii also - probably my favourite site with G/B content - and I plan to join again sometime soon, especially now that they have Connie exclusively (for G/B).
I wasn't really bothered by Nasos's problems, but I did find the site a bit too AJAX-heavy - with symptoms like the back button not working as you'd expect etc.
While we have the ear of the webmaster though... I know it's a little churlish to complain given how good the current TBP price is... but why must you do regional pricing? Admittedly charging the same EUR as USD is better than when you did GBP, but still...
Girl-girl content here is very few and far between, so it sort of makes sense that they may source it elsewhere. Having said that, one recent set & video of Samantha Bentley was taken from Breath Takers.
But I think it's rare - the site's stile is artsy/sophisticated enough that we'd recognise if there were more sets elsewhere. And the standard is good so I don't really begrudge the odd borrowed set.
Excellent review - and as a sometime-fan of heartcore, very helpful - this site has sort of been on my radar but your helpful review has pushed it down a few rungs. Your take on them trying but not quite making the transition sounds spot on, having seen similar material elsewhere.
Have you tried Joymii or X Art? They seem to set the standard - I'd be interested what you think of them.
This site remains on my to-join list since it features a number of models I like - although a bit tempered by some of the download issues folk have had and I'm not sure if there are still restrictions.
However, it's worth noting that if you like the style - and UK models - the photographer's work seems to be featured quite heavily on at least 3 other sites I know of:
I'd say other. I'll still add reviews, and chime in when I see something particularly relevant; but probably less likely to comment on as many polls/reviews etc. As Capn surmised, I think the raffle did increase participation, as it was designed to.
Great review, wittyguy - interesting that you reached the same score as me, but for different reasons.
I actually like the photography and camerawork; for me the cropping, lighting work well and make it atmospheric, and the action is explicit enough for me. But the things I agree with you on - that for me let down what should be a great site, are:
* The lack of variety - it becomes very formulaic;
* The pop shots - as you suggest, this should be something is female-partner-friendly, but the guy finishing on the girl's body or face kind of takes away from the believable atmosphere
Either way, for $10 (half what it was when I joined) it is great value. But if you think the concept could work for you, then I'd suggest trying Joymii - which I preferred.
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