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08-10-14  09:17am - 23 days Should PU add a thread labelled RIP for good porn sites that have bit the dust? (26 Posts) - #21
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


I've been watching porn online since 1996, but I only joined PU recently.

The owner of Xisty.com went by the name "Fred." In addition to running his own studio, he licensed content out to others. The ATK photosets credited to "Fred" were his work.


Thanks - I've always wondered who "Fred" was - A LOT of the material at InfocusGirls looks like his material as well.

08-03-14  10:45pm - 29 days You Gotta Love Truth in Advertising (4 Posts) - #4
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Comcast was talking about a usage cap in this area and for a few months they had a usage meter. Apparently they thought better of it because the usage meter disappeared along with all talk of a cap on usage. If they bring it back and it becomes a hassle for me, well Uverse here I come.

08-02-14  05:50am - 31 days You Gotta Love Truth in Advertising (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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You Gotta Love Truth in Advertising

AT & T's Uverse has been making a big push lately to get people to switch over, and I was about to do so when I took a hard look at the speed comparison and realized that - at their maximum speeds - which would cost me as much or more as what I'm paying now with Comcast - I'd be getting 1/2 of what Comcast has been delivering to me.

A few years ago, I was capped at d/l speeds at 500 kb/sec. Then Comcast announced new higher speeds, and once I got one of their new modems for me, I was getting 6 mb/sec with download accelorators. Comcast has been announcing lately that they were about to double the speeds of their high-speed internet service. Looks like they might have down so, since I was just able to download a scene using a download accelorator at 14 mb/sec. Sweet!

08-01-14  11:32pm - 31 days Should PU add a thread labelled RIP for good porn sites that have bit the dust? (26 Posts) - #8
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Add to the gone-but-not-completely-forgotten:

ClubNella, which was replaced by NellasWorld, which disappeared just a couple of months after it replaced ClubNella, unfortunately.

And, since solo-girl sites have been some of my favorites, I'll also lament the loss of NaughtyGirlSandy.com, which was replaced by SandySummers.com, which has also disappeared. Her earliest solo-girl material, which was originally on SexyTeenSandy.com, can still be found at DigitalAngels.com

And another solo-girl site I can think of is AshleysCandy.com,which Spunky, the webmaster, pulled down at Ashley's family's request after her tragic death - she was hit by a truck crossing the street near where she lived. RIP Ashley - you were a fun, fine, very sexy girl. Edited on Aug 01, 2014, 11:47pm

07-17-14  07:33pm - 46 days New MYPORN.COM landing page! Launch date now Q2 2015. (23 Posts) - #6
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Best of luck, Rick - looks classy!

07-14-14  06:46am - 50 days NoFagsHere indeed... I'm off! (25 Posts) - #16
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Personally, I rarely get offended by something as short as a Username because, unless I have a conversation with the person , I have no idea what their intentions are/were - Is it a Gay guy that has run into that kind of sentiment so often that they want to wear it as a badge of honor? Is it someone being ironic somehow? I dunno. But - as usually happens in these cases, Khan and Rick heard the distress and carried out a reasonable action in response. Good for them.

07-08-14  06:34pm - 55 days The Joy of "Paint" (10 Posts) - #6
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I really have no problem getting great images and it's no work at all, Wittyguy - pause, shift-prt screen, paste in Paint, save as and you have a great erotic image tailored to your particular tastes.

07-08-14  06:41am - 56 days The Joy of "Paint" (10 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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The Joy of "Paint"

There has always been a dichotomy among PU's between vid guys and photo guys. Some of us find images in motion more erotic. Some of us (including myself) find still images more erotic. I've found that making my own stills from vids using "Paint" is a whole lot of fun and makes it a blast to go back to my favorite vids to capture the images that really do it for me.

Am I unique in this activity or do other pic-fans among PU's do this also?

Just wondering.

06-19-14  06:30am - 75 days extreme sites (2 Posts) - #2
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There used to be a European site - German? Russian? - that had all kind of fun/bizarre scenarios, updated regularly. They had one site called Funny BDSM that had quirkier scenes and another related site called Brutal Violence. Then they combined both into one site that was part of a small network. I don't know where they are now. You could always crank your anti-virus up to high and start googling. TBP's list of BDSM shows slim picking aside from Kink's sites.

06-13-14  08:44pm - 80 days Interesting article about X-Art and their copyright defence (18 Posts) - #10
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Another reason - beyond their boring fucking movies - not to subscribe to their site.

06-13-14  08:31pm - 80 days Ebina Models closed? (5 Posts) - #5
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I had a membership years ago for a short time. I didn't feel terribly lucky, to be honest.

05-08-14  09:05pm - 116 days Asa Akira Memoir (2 Posts) - #3
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I was reading a lot at the time of the John Stagliano trial a few years ago, and both Aurora Snow and Lorelei Lee had some excellent pieces that they wrote about it. I doubt that I'll read Asa's book - just too much other good stuff to read these days - but I'm sure she'll sell a lot of copies and have fun doing signings. She's done quite well for herself, has directed a number of DVD's for Elegant Angel, though I suspect that she's on Hold as far as that goes, since she became a Wicked Girl not that long ago.

05-07-14  05:37am - 118 days Name recognition in porn (20 Posts) - #17
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In porn, "most successful" doesn't equal highest name recognition. I would bet that if you took a poll of average Americans of who the top porn star is, it would be someone that's not even in the top 20 of a sales-based list on an adult DVD site.

Playboy, Penthouse & Hustler blasted their way into mass consciousness over time with lots of mainstream news stories, while I can't recall MetArt, DDF, Twisty's, etc having ever been mentioned at all.

05-05-14  06:57am - 120 days Do people who like Cuckolds also enjoy Trannys? (10 Posts) - #9
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Count me in on the "no connection" crowd. It's apples and orangutans. For me, any kind of situation can be hot if it's with the right performers. Put a babe I'm hot for in a cuckold scene and, if it's done well, I'll enjoy it.

The issue with trannies is the same and I've seen very few trannies/TS/ladyboys that I found hot. But there's not much "never" in the world of human attraction and I recently saw material with a Brazilian named Melzinha/Melissa Bonekinha, who I think is freaking gorgeous. My favorite stuff are video clips of Melzinha/Melissa just dancing in a bikini, looking like the free-est human being on the planet - very erotic! I discovered Melzinha/Melissa in a scene at Evil Angel - this is her escort page, that has some awesome dancing scenes:

http://www.riorelax.com.br/tr/Melissa-Bonekinha/

04-07-14  09:46pm - 147 days Clara-G.com and LiveGonzo.com now closed (3 Posts) - #4
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I believe that a great deal of both sites' material has been released by Evil Angel on DVD and can therefore be found on EvilAngel.com

03-22-14  08:40am - 164 days What is your system ? (25 Posts) - #9
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Windows 7, 64bit

I use IE, Firefox and Chrome - the latest versions of each - they all do well on some things, drive me crazy in other ways. Both Firefox and Chrome have a hell of a time dealing with the recent versions of Shockwave, for instance.

IE's upgrades roll out with all the other Windows upgrades, and Firefox upgrades every week, it seems, so the only browser that stays static is Chrome.

I like my current computer, so I'll keep it as long as I can with Windows 7, which I also like.

02-26-14  11:05pm - 187 days Survey on Gonzo Pornography (17 Posts) - #4
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Why in the world should we care about distorting the statistics when we don't know what they'll be use for?

I'll pass too. My sentiments about gonzo - and other - pornography have been expressed here in one way or another over the years quite fully, I believe.

02-14-14  12:34am - 200 days Condom Use in Jynx Maze February Scene on Brazzers (25 Posts) - #7
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I hadn't followed that whole Naughty America situation - yipes, what a mess!

I agree with the "who cares" in regard to condom use in adult films. If performers are safer, that's a good thing. I don't get the attitude of "I really find this babe hot so I want to see her have the most unsafe sex possible."

11-12-13  06:04pm - 293 days Porn Stars and Drugs (14 Posts) - #7
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Porn & drugs - kind of a combustible duo - give fast money to young women in a profession that they probably don't feel comfortable talking about with many of the most important people in their lives and you're asking for trouble. The desire for escape and the easy means to attain it are a lethal combination. Kudos to the many women that manage to keep a level head, and to use the money for something useful.

10-12-13  07:19am - 325 days RIP Ashleys Candy (1 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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RIP Ashleys Candy

The woman that modeled for AshleysCandy.com has passed away. According to one post that I saw - unconfirmed - she was hit by a car. The webmaster has shut down her site.

RIP, Ashley - you were a cutie!

09-05-13  08:22pm - 361 days the future of pornusers...a couple mockups to get your head spinning (102 Posts) - #41
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I have to say that I find this amusing. I was checking the Myporn.com site, just to see what it looks like now and there is a link to Porn Forums. I was wondering where that would lead. #2 under the Porn Users Forum is the Freeones Board - the same board that I was asked by the people who run this site to stop mentioning a few years ago.

That's kind of funny.

08-18-13  06:22pm - 379 days the future of pornusers...a couple mockups to get your head spinning (102 Posts) - #24
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My thoughts - we got a lot out of the whole thing. I can't think of another site that gave out anything as generous at the raffle as rewards for contributing to the site.

Businesses have to deal with changing realities if they're going to survive. That's life.

I credit Rick and everybody associated with TBP/PU with being straight-forward with us along this whole ride.

That's all I ever expect from anybody.

The mock-up pieces look pretty, Rick - should definitely attract some traffic for that reason alone - and that's a good start.

08-03-13  04:18pm - 394 days The Manwin porn portal business model (12 Posts) - #6
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Lots of sites offer promos to their users - Manwin is the only company that I've seen that does this inexpensive "lifetime access for next to nothing if you keep renewing your Brazzers membership" type deal.

But the Met Art network is an example of what many sites do - offer discounts on related sites.

08-02-13  06:27pm - 395 days Is the PU Newsletter dead? (27 Posts) - #4
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Confirming pat's assertion, I was just browsing some of TBP's top-rated Asian sites - ActionJav.com, after getting increasingly erratic in terms of their release schedule has not posted a single vid since 7/24 with no comment as to when another update might be posted. The Black Alley, another of TBP's top 10 Asian sites, hasn't posted a single update since mid-July with no comment as to when another update might be posted. I saw the new review of ThaiChix, aka Club ThaiChix, and I had to laugh when I looked at the most recent promotion they had e-mailed me, because it confirmed everything that the review said that they're just getting the most easily-licensed years-old stuff to post as their updates.

When 3 of the top sites in a particular category are all going down the drain at the same time, I think it's fair to say that the world of internet-porn is getting bleaker.

OTOH, if you're into soft-core and mid-core stuff, there's a lot of new stuff being produced - the whole Met-Art network, for example.

But this ain't the glory days of internet-porn, that's for dang sure!

07-08-13  11:44pm - 420 days Upcoming Movie Thread (1202 Posts) - #1158
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Of course, the reality that gives life to the conspiracy theorists is that the government DOES in fact lie to us all the time. I'm reading Jeremy Scahill's brilliant well-documented book, "Dirty Wars" - the US government uses the Special Forces as a particularly blood-thirsty, fairly in-discriminant version of Murder Inc around the world. For every Osama bin Laden they kill, they kill tens of thousands of men, women and children - and have quotes from the people leading and unleashing all that carnage that the people they're killing were no threats to the US whatsoever, which doesn't even slow them down.

Then people wonder "why do they hate us?"

07-06-13  09:02am - 423 days Saturday Morning Cartoons (21 Posts) - #4
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Allie Haze is adorable sans make-up - GORGEOUS smile!

and Dani Daniels - Dammmmmmnnnn!!! She makes my heart go thump-a-thump

Madison Ivy - with those eyes - would turn heads no matter what.

As to the content of the article about whether these women would be upset, I doubt it. Melissa Murphy is a well-known make-up artist in porn and these kind of "before and after" pics get posted in Twitter frequently. I HIGHLY doubt that any make-up artist in porn would jeopardize their career by releasing pics that the subjects would be upset by - unless they were an idiot.

I would also say that if you go to a fancy cocktail party, at least a good percentage of the women there are wearing similar amounts of make-up as the women in these photos - which is why make-up is a 230 billion dollar industry.

07-05-13  03:42pm - 423 days Extreme Associates-videos, dvds (11 Posts) - #11
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You can find a lot of Max Hardcore material at Videosz.com

Extreme Associates - I don't know. Fuck Rob Black! The cowardly asshole did everything possible to invite prosecution and then pled like a simp.

07-05-13  03:23pm - 424 days Are there crazies in real life, or do they only exist in the movies? (15 Posts) - #8
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Yes, it's the same woman. And now she's convicted and sentenced to prison for life.

I don't do a google search for these articles. I read the entertainment news, and when I see a strange-looking article heading, I sometimes click on it.

And that's why I sometimes post these "news" articles here.

I mean, I know there are crazy people out there, and it shouldn't shock me no matter what they do, but I keep on being surprised.

I sometimes wonder if their craziness might rub off on "normal" people.

Or maybe "normal" people, if you go down deep enough, aren't really that normal after all.

What ever happened to the world being safe, and you could trust people?

When I was a kid, we didn't have these types of horror stories about mass killings or random killings so often. But in today's world, parents teach their children to be suspicious of strangers, to report any behavior that might be suspicious or odd, to be on guard.

There's less trust, and it's sometimes warranted.


Some of it's real, some of it's the product of a concerted campaign.

Real: Ask the people of the Balkans what safety is. One day, they were all intermixed ethnicities and they were neighbors and safe, the next day, politicians were able to get people murdering their neighbors based on them being a different ethnicity than they were - 10's of thousands of people murdered, raped, etc - definitely not "safe"

Manufactured: In the 80's/90's in the US there was a whole campaign about how unsafe day-care centers and other such places were - in Florida, in the LA area (remember the McMartin Family), in San Diego, in New York (the Friedman family, who ran a computer school for kids) - over and over the same story - little kids being brought in to therapists who helped them "remember" the sexual abuse they experienced and once they got one kid to "remember", they brought in tons of other kids who were told "Jimmy told us the truth, don't you want to be brave and tell us the truth too?" So the kids would make up ridiculous stories. In LA and San Diego, they were digging up the grounds to find the tunnels where the kids had "remembered" large animals being killed and buried. It was all a bull-shit terror campaign to make women feel like they were committing a crime if they left their children with somebody else.

Are there crazies? Fuck yeah - and mainly they're running government here and around the world!

07-04-13  08:21pm - 424 days Happy 4th of July (4 Posts) - #3
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Happy 4th, everybody

06-20-13  09:19pm - 438 days Upcoming Movie Thread (1202 Posts) - #1147
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^Who exactly would pay 50$ to see a movie 2 days before anyone else? Especially a movie which had to have reshoots
and may be a giant bomb.

Maybe this is the only way the studio thinks it can make some of it's money back.


The studio's bet might not be wrong. I think they're learning from video games. The biggest video game fans are disappointed if a major release does NOT come out with a special version for $99 or more with a bunch of collectibles. San Diego is a natural place for a screening of this sort since the San Diego Comics Con is one of the biggest events of the year in SD - it sells out faster & faster every year even though the price keeps going up and it's getting further and further from its origins as a comics convention and now more about the major studios showing off their block-busters that have any kind of fantasy, horror or sci-fi elements.

It will be interesting to see how successful these World War Z screenings are.

05-22-13  10:58pm - 467 days Why My Free Cams is preoccupying my time and money (24 Posts) - #22
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23k award points = $12.50, I believe

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05-21-13  10:30pm - 468 days I'm back... and motivated. (51 Posts) - #14
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Welcome back, Rick - I'll be looking forward to seeing what's next for the TBP universe.

05-18-13  09:01pm - 471 days PU Official: Raffle Update (28 Posts) - #28
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The raffles been very cool - I haven't won for a while, mainly because my review-writing activity hasn't been very high for quite a while, but I won a substantial amount of money and always appreciated it.

As others have said, it's not going to stop me from participating on this site as much as I have been. It's just another sign of the times of the financial state of the porn industry.

I work in publishing - another financially troubled industry - so I can relate.

05-17-13  09:31pm - 472 days Upcoming Movie Thread (1202 Posts) - #1109
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I've disliked all of the Spider Man movies - way too much CGI, which makes them look too much like old Saturday morning cartoons - not compelling in any way shape or form.

James Cameron's Avatar had much more thrilling flying scenes than any of the Spider Man movies had and the Iron Man movies have done a much better job at maintaining the illusion that the character was participating in the action scenes than any of the Spider Man movies have.

None of them have been very good and I don't expect this upcoming one to be any better. I'll do what I have with the others - watch it on cable, so I won't mind so much when I get bored within a half hour and stop watching the damned thing entirely.

05-05-13  07:49pm - 484 days Upcoming Movie Thread (1202 Posts) - #1098
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^ that's entertainment! What was Iron Man 3 about? It was about watching Robert Downey Jr have fun playing Iron Man - and doing it well. Then there was a bunch of action stuff going on. Period.

05-04-13  04:31pm - 485 days Upcoming Movie Thread (1202 Posts) - #1094
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Iron Man 3 was a fun popcorn movie, though I was full from lunch and didn't eat any. Robert Downey Jr makes the Iron Man movies as good as they are. I'm glad he was able to kick his drug problem before he was found dead in some shitty hotel room and now gets to enjoy his life and make a whole lot of money that doesn't wind up up his nose or in his arm.

05-04-13  04:22pm - 485 days Unstoppable, Ron Jeremy rises from life-threating health problem to continue doing porn (11 Posts) - #12
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Ron J worked hard to keep his place in the industry - showing up for every gig, no matter how small his part of it, and I think he got a lot of affection from the female portion of the porn industry by being a nice, funny guy - and he also worked the room at a lot of bachelor parties where porn babes were the entertainment - so he was valued by female porn stars for helping them earn money.

04-13-13  10:42pm - 506 days OT - MMA-Related - Controversy re: Fallon Fox, Transgender Fighter (14 Posts) - #8
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The "so many girls refuse to fight her" is a hot of hype. There were female fighters (multiple) who said that the first they heard about their refusal to fight Rousey was when that was announced by the UFC. Don't believe the hype. Any female pro in the 135-lb division would love to have a match in the UFC against Rousey. Carmouche campaigned for that fight like crazy, so she got it - and she proved that she deserved it too.

04-12-13  08:05pm - 507 days OT - MMA-Related - Controversy re: Fallon Fox, Transgender Fighter (14 Posts) - #4
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That fight made me a huge fan of Rousey. I bought the PPV, cause I had to see it live as it happened. Just watching Rousey stalk to the ring, like a gun-slinger from out of a classic western out to avenge her sister or something, was worth the price of the PPV. She had just intent! Then before the fight started, she was this bouncing ball of energy, with this dark cloud over her eyes. It was an amazing fight. Few fighters would have had the where-withal to have gotten past that choke attempt.

Rousey said that if she were matched with Fallon, she'd take the fight, but that she still thinks that someone who was a biological male would have an advantage, that it would not be a fair fight.

My neighbor, who has studied martial arts for decades and teaches women - only women, because he's seen too many male lunk-heads who learn martial arts so they can start fights in bars - says that a well-trained martial artist can take on someone regardless of weight, so he thinks it's no big deal.

04-11-13  08:52pm - 508 days OT - MMA-Related - Controversy re: Fallon Fox, Transgender Fighter (14 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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OT - MMA-Related - Controversy re: Fallon Fox, Transgender Fighter

In MMA circles, there has been a lot of controversy swirling around Fallon Fox.

Fallon is a transgender-male-to-female person who "came out" as transgendered after having 2 very dominant performances against women fighters who had not been told that Fallon had been male for the first 31 years of his/her life - this stuff is so confusing, I don't even know what the correct pronoun is.

There's controversy over whether it was a scummy move for Fallon to fight any women without informing them of that reality.

There's controversy over whether it's fair for a transgendered person to fight a biological woman.

There's controversy over whether a transgendered person has the same biology or different biology than a biological female.

I remember when I was in my 20's, I had a friend, Shelley, that I used to wrestle often. Shelley was a bit shorter than me, but she was stocky and lifted weights for fun. I was a bean-pole, really skinny, and I never worked out at all, except playing drums and dancing at clubs and walking a lot. Wrestling Shelley was fun because neither one of us was ever able to pin the other, so we could go as long as we wanted, and as furiously as we wanted, and it would never end with a pin.

That tells me that males have certain advantages over women, and the fact that this person can come into MMA in their mid-30's and start dominating women who have been fighting and studying martial arts for years, tells me that transgender male-to-female's have an advantage over biological females and that there can't be a fair fight based on weight between that pairing.

Thoughts?

04-11-13  08:39pm - 508 days A Note from Khan (50 Posts) - #43
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I just saw this - glad you're OK, Khan.

Best of luck on your recovery

03-31-13  10:42pm - 519 days Upcoming Movie Thread (1202 Posts) - #1073
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"Olympus Has Fallen" is a huge disappointment, given that the director did "Training Day", which was such a great searing film, one that went against the grain and took real chances.

Now he's doing this jingoistic, paint-by-numbers, official-enemy-of-the-moment anti-terrorist film -- what did he, have a lobotomy?

03-29-13  07:39pm - 521 days In praise of tatted up hotties (7 Posts) - #5
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I'm sure there are other people that would be saying, "Asphyxia would be so hot if she only had her small tats on her shoulders - someplace less obtrusive than her face."

It's the boldness of Asphyxia's facial art and the florid quality of Christy colorful sleeves that make it so exciting to me. When you see them have sex, it's artwork in motion.

03-27-13  07:58pm - 523 days In praise of tatted up hotties (7 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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In praise of tatted up hotties

I'm watching a brand new scene at EvilAngel.com featuring tatted up hotties, Asphyxia Noir and Christy Mack, thinking, "EA - you know what i like!"

And I really like tatted up hotties!!!

03-15-13  08:12pm - 535 days IE 10 - Not Bad (9 Posts) - #10
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They mainly promoted IE 10 for Windows 8, but the reviews say that it's pretty solid under-the-hood. It's certainly a world more stable than fucking Chrome, that's for sure!

Microsoft is amazingly inconsistent for such a huge company. Vista was a crap OS, Windows 7 is quite good, then Windows 8 seems to have been their attempt to create an Apple-style closed universe without having anything appealing about it, so it's a disaster from a PR perspective.

We recently had to go to Office 2010 at work and excel on 2010 is just a freaking disaster - you can consume all your system resources just trying to sort a simple spreadsheet. And there are 100's of threads railing about it. Have they patched it in 3 years to fix the problems - hell, no.

They're imbeciles 1/2 the time, competent the other 1/2.

03-13-13  12:48am - 538 days IE 10 - Not Bad (9 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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IE 10 - Not Bad

There were a number of updates available to me when I checked tonight, including IE 10. I figured, "Oh, well - here goes nothing." I decided to download it along with the various security updates that Microsoft had available, have had a little experience with it - it's not bad at all. It's geared to showing as much of the web page as possible, not taking a bunch of room with toolbars, etc, which is good. It seems simple and speedy and what else could one want from a browser?

The one that's on my thumbs-down list these days is Chrome, due to its inability to play nice with Flash

02-25-13  09:17pm - 553 days Kink.Com Article in SF Weekly & Kink.com's response (4 Posts) - #5
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Yeah, I thought that crap about - "our video shoot rules don't apply at Folsom Street Fair" - was really fucked up, just an excuse to not take care of the safety of a performer.

02-20-13  08:16pm - 558 days Kink.Com Article in SF Weekly & Kink.com's response (4 Posts) - #2
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And SF Weekly responded to Kink.com - they're really milking this, aren't they?

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013...om_sfweekly.php#more

02-20-13  08:02pm - 558 days Kink.Com Article in SF Weekly & Kink.com's response (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Kink.Com Article in SF Weekly & Kink.com's response

The cover of SF Weekly this week had the following article:

http://www.sfweekly.com/2013-02-20/news/...l-porn-company-kink/

Today, Kink.com responded:

http://sfist.com/2013/02/20/kinkcom_resp...o_sf_weeklys_gag.php

02-18-13  07:56pm - 560 days Proper Grammar? Off-Topic! (18 Posts) - #12
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...0120307154328AAwQF9g

Here's a full discussion of this topic. I use "off of" and feel quite comfortable being in the company of William Faulkner, Flannery O'Connor, Harry S. Truman, and James Thurber in doing so. I don't see any reason to stop using it. It's obviously not a recent speech invention.

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