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11-24-14  05:55pm - 1 day More Random Levity (71 Posts) - #68
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^My local Walmart had Christmas decorations out about a week before Halloween. Mind you since our Thanskgiving is very different than yours than we don't actually need any kind of Thanksgiving decorations(does that even exists?). Long live the Brown Coats.

11-20-14  06:07pm - 5 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #760
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^It's not rocket science. If you are a person or group of persons who own content and would like to make some money from that content by offering it to people on the net than all you need to do is make sure that your site has an icon called "join". This icon would automatically bring up a join page where a possible customer knows how you want him or her to pay to get access to that content. Now if as you say they are trying too hard to succeed than you might want to tell them that they are wasting their time because they are driving in the wrong direction. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-20-14  05:56pm - 5 days I'll be back (12 Posts) - #11
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^Based on what CT wrote in the last few weeks than I feel comfortable in saying that I doubt that it had anything to do with him leaving. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-19-14  06:41pm - 6 days I'll be back (12 Posts) - #7
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There is so much that I could write but I think a simple Enjoy the Holidays and stay safe CT is all that needs to be said. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-19-14  06:35pm - 6 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #757
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^I see it differently because if TBP/PU list the site than they are in fact supporting what I consider to be a scam site. You may have a different opinion of what a scam site is but mine is simple. If a site (like yours) which does not show a join price anywhere on their preview section and actually goes out of it's way to make it appear as though it's free than it's scamming people.

Why not choose a site with similar content that TBP shows as being active to talk about instead of trying to get a site that looks fishy reinstated. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-18-14  05:53pm - 7 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #755
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^What you describe sounds like a scam site and I see no point in talking about a scam other than to advise people to stay away from it. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-17-14  06:23pm - 8 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #752
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


It's actually not free, although it looks that way. Trust me, I just paid $15.00 for a membership. It says free to join, but that just gets you the ability to browse the thumbnails. You have to buy a membership to actually access the content.


I can't speak for the amount you paid but they clearly say on one of their pages that you can join for free simply by entering some basic info. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-17-14  06:18pm - 8 days Ever have one of those weeks where everything goes right? (7 Posts) - #6
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Originally Posted by biker:



Now if I could find a porn site that has a Barbarella type Science Fiction theme where Barbarella is made to please the Dark Queen in all manor hedonistic delights. Never happen.


Not sure if this is any way what you are looking for but this is the closest I could find.

http://www.whippedass.com/site/shoot/341...the-Black-Queen.html Long live the Brown Coats.

11-16-14  09:51am - 10 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #745
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^I don't think pretending to be drunk is illegal per say but I certainly wouldn't want to be the company who shot those types of scenes if they don't also happen to have a video of the girl saying that it's all pretend after the scene/ Otherwise an enterprising young lady with a lawyer could take those fools to court by saying that she wasn't pretending and that she was drunk and they took advantage of her. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-15-14  06:10pm - 10 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #743
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Originally Posted by biker:


^So these people are publicizing a site that is illegal? How do they get away with that?


Personally I think that the drunk thing is mostly for show and the women just pretend to be inebriated. There are so many things that can go wrong with someone who is drunk that it's make shooting scene a waste of time and money. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-14-14  06:03pm - 11 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #738
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I doubt you will get your wish because they themselves make it clear that you won't be able to join after December 1 so why even bother opening it when it will have to be closed in less than 3 weeks and any discussion will be for a site no one can join.

I would also like to point out that if the content is truly of people that are drunk than the people producing and releasing it are breaking the law. I don't know if you are aware but it's quite illegal to shoot someone under the influence of a controlled substance. To shoot porn you have to give consent and that is not really possible when you are by definition not in control of all of them. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-14-14  05:58pm - 11 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #16
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^^&^^^Let me clarify my point somewhat. I am well aware that there are other search engines because I from time to time use them and I'm even willing to concede that some of them offer better services than Google but let's be honest here. Everyone of those Google competitors is desperately trying to nibble away some of the Google customers and unless I am way off than they are doing rather poorly at it.

I don't like the fact that Google is as powerful as it is because I already said that monopolies are never good for the consumer. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-13-14  05:55pm - 12 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #12
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^I guess we will have to agree to disagree because I do not agree with you. I don't think Google's ad revenue is in any way or shape inoffensive. It's a well designed cash machine that pretty much has the balls of every company with a presence on the net.

Please name me the top 5 search engines other than Google? Long live the Brown Coats.

11-12-14  06:35pm - 13 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #10
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^I don't want to burst your bubble but the days when Google was a search engine are now in the past. Google is now a marketing tool disguised as a search engine. The results you get aren't based on an arbitrary system where Google is unaware of the hits you get back but on a calculated system where computer techs have created an algorithm that is designed to earn as much money to Google as possible. If they happen to help the person than great but otherwise I honestly don't think they give a shit because it's not like there are 2 or 3 other similar engines offering a similar or better product.

Monopolies are rarely good for consumers. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-11-14  11:03am - 14 days Veteran's Day (2 Posts) - #2
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In Canada it's Remembrance Day. It's not yet a national Holiday but there is a serious push in the Senate to make it one.

For now all I want to say is Thank You. I know Veterans don't hear it as often as they should but I know that I'm thankful every day for the sacrifice they did and still do on a daily basis. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-10-14  01:44pm - 15 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #5
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^Frighteningly worse than 18 years old watching porn on tube sites is all the underage boys looking at it. If nothing else limiting possible hits would go a long way in making it harder for underage boys to access porn.

I don't think anyone thinks that it's a good idea for young men to get sexually stimulated by the porn found on tube sites. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-09-14  05:26pm - 16 days anal sex 101 in Harvard (4 Posts) - #4
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^Strange because I would think the last class Americans need to take is an anal sex one because they should all be experts now seeing as they have all been fucked up the ass for decades by every level of Government. Now the class does say that it wants to teach students the healthy and pleasurable way to practice it but having been buggered a few times by my Government. I have yet to find it healthy or pleasurable and I don't think I ever will. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-09-14  05:17pm - 16 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #3
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^One way they could help is by making sure that no tube or torrent sites appear in the first 10 pages of results when a user does a search by keywords in Google. To give you an idea I did an experiment with the name Nina hartley and the words anal, vaginal and boy girl. I only looked at the first four pages of results.

1-Nina Hartley and anal: Only 6 of the 40 results were not for tube and torrent sites.

2- Nina Hartley Vaginal: Only about 5 were for tube and torrents sites but the rest were mostly all for stores that sell sex toys like the fleshlight.

3-Nina Hartley and boy girl: Only 9 were not for Tube and Torren sites.

I could attempt the exercise with different performers but I suspect the results would be about the same. How can honest paying sites get hits when the biggest search engine on the planet keeps sending people to tube and torrent sites? Long live the Brown Coats.

11-06-14  06:58pm - 19 days Do you think ... ? (9 Posts) - #7
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I don't think we can use what happened to PD to make any kind of judgement on what may happen to more extreme sites in the future because PD is in many ways a separate case from similar sites.

I don't know how many of you are aware but Kink is in big trouble with OSHA in large part because of the type of shoot they did on PD. I'm not talking slap on the wrist trouble but 50,000$ fine trouble. There was the highly mediatized case of Cameron bay who contracted HIV and it was rumored that she might have caught it while shooting for PD. I don't know if we will ever know but one thing is certain and there was a male who cut his penis and he bled and the scene was not stopped. There is also the fact that they used non-tested people who technically should not come into contact with the performers but who did and that is a major no, no in the industry.

I think Peter Acworth had little choice but stopped producing PD type content because he can ill afford to get another fine like the ones he currently has. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-02-14  05:55pm - 23 days Porn sites: double penetration, gangbang or cuckold?? (3 Posts) - #4
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The following suggestions are US based sites so the bulk of the performers are Americans.

1-Evil Angel: Has most of what you want except maybe for gang bangs because I don't know how many they have (if any).

2-Elegant Angel: Has everything except I don't think they have cuckold content. Be advised that this site isn't really updating anymore so don't buy a long term membership.

3-Videobox: Probably has everything you want but it is so huge that you will probably need more than one month to find all that you want. Mind you there is nothing wrong with that and their join price is cheap. Another problem is that finding content can be difficult because their search engine doesn't always give you all the results it should or it gives you results it shouldn't.

4-VideosZ: See what I said about Videobox because it is it's closest competitor.

The following are European sites so be advised that there may be very little dialogue and if there is then it won't be in English. Another important thing to know is that cuckold type porn is rare in Europe and gang bangs tend to often be closer to orgies.

1-21Sextury: Is an excellent network of sites with amazing porn but no cuckold and I don't think you will find many gang bangs (if any).

2-DDF Network: Another great network but no gang bangs and no cukold stuff either


Of course you already have the suggestion Lpee gave you. The only thing I will add is that Public Disgrace has few double penetrations scenes. In fact I think you can count them on one hand. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-01-14  06:06pm - 24 days The Assault & Rape of Lola Taylor (3 Posts) - #2
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I don't know which version is accurate but the one I have is somewhat different and in many ways scarier. The story goes that Lola/Lolita Taylor went to the apartment of a man she met on some kind of dating site but I think that she was meeting a customer(ie: she was escorting). Now whether that's true or not is irrelevant to the story since she did not go there to get raped all night long by two sick and degenerate men.

She discovered when she got to the apartment that the guy wasn't alone and that's when they pounced on her handcuffed her and sent the rest of the night beating and raping her. At some point in the morning they must have removed the handcuff and that's when she jumped out of the window. In the UK article it says that she was more or less rescued by a stranger but the Russian article is different because they say that the rapist ran down and dragged her back to the apartment and it's only because someone called the police and when they arrived they saw the window from where Lola escaped from was damaged and they proceeded to break the door down and arrest both men. I don't think Lola would be alive today if they hadn't done that.

Lola posted some reassuring info on another forum. She has a couple months of rehab ahead but doctors say she should make a full recovery. At least body wise but she probably will need years of psychiatry help to get over the trauma. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-31-14  06:54pm - 25 days fruits and things as dildo niche (4 Posts) - #4
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I've never been a fan of food insertion porn. It may sound a little weird but I just think that food should be eaten and not stuck up someone orifice and that's basically what I always think about when I see it performed. Luckily that is rare. For that reason I won't be of much help but since I keep track of a lot of porn than I feel comfortable in saying that you probably won't find a lot.

Take a look at "in the crack". Not sure if they have what you are looking for but they are basically dedicated to solo insertion porn. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-29-14  06:22pm - 27 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #44
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^I like your suggestion but do you really believe that there is an actual need for another freelance anything. I would think that the market is already supersaturated with freelancers that established people are having a hard time making a living. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-25-14  01:48pm - 31 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #29
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Chloe Amour has been in 82 porn films. I suppose that doesn't quality as "prolific" enough.



I agree that 82 is more than impressive but in the case of someone like Chloe. The number has to be looked a little more deeply to see that she isn't as prolific as the number would imply. Of those 82 titles. 15 are scene she shot for internet studios and 25 are non-sex videos. Just the 25 non-sex scenes means that almost a third of her scenes aren't even porn. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-24-14  06:59pm - 32 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #26
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^I actually think that both terms apply to Sasha. Not that there is anything wrong with that but that kind of general attitude is bound to affect her overall performance. As much as I thought she was hot and that she was impressive in her sexual abilities on screen. Too many of her scenes left me a little cold because there was a certain look in her eyes that I couldn't overlook.

I think she had a plan that included a checklist of things she was going to do while in the industry and I can't help but feel that she knew at about when she would leave the industry. The fact that she managed to get cast in a well respected directors mainstream movie just accelerated her timeline but not by much. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-24-14  06:53pm - 32 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #735
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


My 2 cents: it's up to the industry to come up with a business model compatible with the harsh realities of the internet. Relying on the noble spirit of the public to do the right thing, or fighting the nature of the internet itself, isn't a sustainable strategy.



I agree with you but here are some of the problems.

Problem #1: I often talk about the porn industry but the reality is that there isn't any all inclusive porn industry with major players who get together and try to implement policies. What you have are multiple groups all looking to take a piece of an always decreasing pie. The last thing anyone of them wants to do is allow someone else to make more money than them.

Problem #2: Manwin/Mindgeek owns so many porn studios that they are by default the biggest player in the industry and they are also the people who own 8 of the top 10 tube sites. No one dares complain about their business practice because they know that they won't get hired.

Problem #3: The tiny number of organisations responsible for monitoring the industry are owned or controlled by manwin/Mindgeek and we already know they are douchebags so that's why you keep hearing about another HIV case. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-23-14  07:07pm - 33 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #731
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^You have to realise that it's our money that pays for the so called free porn you have been using. At some point it would be nice if you actually started to pay for some of it because I don't know if you have seen a trend in the last few years but there is less porn being made each year and what gets done is not as good as what came before it. Some could overlook it 5 years ago because the tsunami was still far enough away that it still looked like a normal wave but now it's a gigantic wave that is sweeping everything away. Few will survive it and I don't know if I want to see what will be left once it has passed.

You are now part of the majority of people that happily watch free porn without a care in the world. I've had arguments with people on other forums because they were complaining about the quality of porn that they watched on tube or torrent sites. I always thought that they had to have one hell of a pair of balls to complain about stuff they never paid for. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-23-14  06:55pm - 33 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #34
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^I completely agree with you and that's why I keep saying that anyone wanting to produce porn must have money that they can afford to lose because they will lose a lot of it before they make a profit. In fact I would say that most will lose a lot of it and never make any profit. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-23-14  06:52pm - 33 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #23
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


How does one choose an "IT" girl in porn. Last one I remember was ... what's her name.. ah (hold on I have to look it up)...
Sasha Grey (dam my memory). And I think the "IT" part was because main stream media grabbed hold of her.


Sasha did have the It girl quality but so much of what she did felt calculated that she sort of loses porn credits. She is in that rather small group of past performers that has actually made a semi-decent career in mainstream Hollywood.

Originally Posted by jberryl69:


That said, I don't really think there is an "IT" girl.


Since so few performers actually last more than a few months than the bulk of todays porn girl is an It girl for about 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by jberryl69:


My main following is the Jonni Darkko thread, and I think the current "IT" girl(s) there this year were Vicki Chase & Bonnie Rotten


Although you would think that having an entire movie dedicated to you would make you a great candidate for It girl. I think it's more because those women are willing to do what Jonni likes and very little. Granted Bonnie has a certain following but I can't grasp the reasons why. It's certainly can't be because you enjoy looking at her natural body. Even a tattoo fan must think that she went a little overboard with some of her body art. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-23-14  06:41pm - 33 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #22
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


Not sure if it's just my perspective, or if she's actually prominent in the mainstream, but Stoya seems to be a bit of a big deal.


Again the correct term is was a big deal. Stoya is part of a very small group of performers who was able to sign a long term contract with Digital Playground but unlike most of their other performers. She was a lot more open to doing the more hardcore types of porn. It didn't hurt that she was not your proto blonde, large breasted girl but a waif like ivory skinned with deep dark hair girl. Sadly like most post-contract performers. She didn't do a whole lot once her contract came due. These days I think she lives on the East Coast and does non-porn related stuff. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-22-14  05:57pm - 34 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #18
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Girls that seem to do a lot of porn these days, which would be a reason for "it" status, include Jada Stevens, Alina Li, and Chloe Amour. Personally, though I like all three, Chloe Amour is the most interesting.

A rising star might be Willow Hayes. I don't know how much she's done.


Alina quit the industry a couple of months ago and I think Jada is also gone. I think Chloe is still active but not a very prolific performer. Willow is still a question mark because she has barely a dozen or so scene under her belt. Cute girl but the large colorful tattoo on her right leg may make her unappealing to many producers. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-22-14  05:50pm - 34 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #17
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


In two words:

Madison Ivy seems at her peak .
And Hayden Winter seems to be really gaining too.


Madison is only at her peak on Manwin/Mindgeek owned sites because she doesn't appear to shoot for anybody else. She does have the distinction of still be doing porn after so many years and that's nothing to laugh about. There aren't too many active 6 year veterans in the industry.

I think you are thinking this is 2013 because Hayden is not gaining on anything. I'm not even sure if she is still doing porn. I was under the impression that she left late last year. Cute girl though. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-22-14  05:39pm - 34 days Anyone have experience with devices that allow you to play files on a TV? (25 Posts) - #24
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^I finally bought a device that can read HD Drive as high as 2 TB and my Blu-ray player is also able to do the same. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-22-14  05:37pm - 34 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #31
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^Thanks for that. I can see why someone would say that it's easier base on so many others doing it but even if making money is not important. I suspect losing large amounts of it must be and that is what many have learned the hard way. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-21-14  06:00pm - 35 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #28
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^Why is it easier now than in the past? The reason I ask is because I would think it's the opposite. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-19-14  05:25pm - 37 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #20
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^I wish you the best of luck if you decide to go ahead but let me warn you that if you think you can bring something new to porn than you are fooling yourself. You may be able to bring back something that is no longer there but you are more than a decade too late to invent the porn wheel. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-18-14  09:31am - 39 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #729
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


This thread in my opinion is designed to provide sites to be considered. For now TBP /PU does not set a condition in having reviewed or have been a members at sites submitted
this seems like and official /unofficial way its been done for quite some time. 04-03-08 08:44am - 2388 days ago lol



I agree that TBP/PU never set limits on this thread but did anyone in charge ever think that we would face the current situation created by skinny. I mean unless I'm reading his posts incorrectly then we are talking about someone who surfs for free porn and is sad that the sites he helped destroy aren't updating anymore and he would like the rest of us to join those sites so that they can start updating again and he can then find the new updates on tube and torrent sites. No offense but that is some fucked up stuff. The too poor argument is really hard to swallow when you know that you can join a site like VB for 12$ and get thousands of videos. The fact that skinny is able to post on the net means that he already has enough money to own a computer and internet access or does he break into houses and post his comments from those computers.

I think that if you want the rest of us to join a dying site to help them stay alive than you should be man enough to lead the charge and join first. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-17-14  02:52pm - 39 days Another moratorium. (19 Posts) - #18
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^That's a good one when you consider that it's coming from a group that is renowned for not releasing information. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-16-14  06:18pm - 40 days Another moratorium. (19 Posts) - #16
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^You know what the problem is with that statement? It goes out of it's way to make it seem like this happened really far from California when it appears that the performer shot in Vegas. The place many producers keep saying they want to move their operations to. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-15-14  06:05pm - 41 days Another moratorium. (19 Posts) - #14
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I debated whether I should start a new thread or use this one but this one is still warm so why not post the bad news here.

Yes, you have guessed right. The FSC is asking that the porn producers implement a 3 day moratorium. The news is very new and all I know is that someone not in Los Angeles tested positive to HIV. If you keep scores than the last one was barely more than 6 weeks ago. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-13-14  06:34pm - 43 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #9
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^Not living in or around Los Angeles is going to make it really hard for you guys to shoot established performers and it can also make it hard for you to book them ahead of a visit. There is a lot of logistic involved with booking talent when you don't live in the city you want to shoot your scenes. Especially when you are unknown people to those agencies.

1-The first thing you need to do is research some of the talent agencies in California and see what you can find out about them. The below link offers a huge list of talent agencies. Be advised that some of these are not in the US or in California and quite a few of the links are probably dead like the agency itself. I suspect that talent will be a huge factor in your decision as you may want a specific performer and that means dealing with her specific agency.

http://www.thefloatingworld.com/thebiz.html

Once you have selected a couple of agencies than you should email them and discuss what it is you want to do and see if something can be arranged. Their answer may very well determine if your fantasy can come through or not. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-13-14  10:31am - 44 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #6
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


If we ever made any of our shoots public, it would be where the model always kept her face hidden in a Mardi Gras mask.


Let me first say that if you decide that your wife will appear on screen than please do not use mask or any other method to hide her face. I don't think I'm alone in saying that a porn scene where you do not see the performers face is not worth watching. I'd also like to point out that the people who use mask think that their identity will remain private but it's a foolish notion because anybody who knows them personally will recognize them by what is visible and by their voice.

Appearing in porn is not like checking the temperature before jumping in the pool. You can't just dip your toe. You either decide that you can live with the consequences once it's found out that you appear in porn because sooner or later your friends and family will hear about it. The only thing you can control is who tells them. The days when you could do porn and then do something else are long gone. The internet makes that impossible today.

Now back to your original question. I think the only way you can produce porn and have a decent chance that no one will find out is if you hire talent and film in an unknown location. Shooting from home would be asking for trouble because your neighbors would wonder why you keep getting strange visitors and someone would be bound to recognize the house. Hiring talent means that you will have to deal with agents that may not be on the up and up or deal with girls that may not be as reliable as you would like. It also means that you will have to abide by 2257 regulations and that is not something that is easy to do.

Here are some of the questions you should be able to answer before you attempt a foray in the porn industry.

1-The first and most important question you have to ask yourselves is why do you want to make porn? Do you want to make huge sums of money from your movies or is it purely a fantasy? The first is likely never going to be achievable in todays porn world. You could make a moderate living if your movies are popular enough. Now if it's a fantasy than remember that it's rare for reality to come close to fantasy. In fact it almost never happens.

2-Second most important question you must ask yourself is. How much money can you afford to lose? If you do not have at least $10,000 to $30,000 that you can live without than don't read any of the other questions. In case you want to know why I picked those amounts than let me explain my logic. A decent digital camera is about 2000$. You can probably pick a cheaper one but the more expensive ones will offer significantly better resolutions and that is very important today. Add another 1000$ for lighting and editing equipment. You most than find a place to shoot. Now some people shoot in hotel rooms so add 100$-200$ for room rental. More if you want to rent the rooms on either side of yours to avoid trouble with the hotel when the people in the other rooms complain about the sound coming from your room. You must than hire talent. The cost I'm giving you are the prices listed on Kink's website because they are the only ones that actually post cost. Here are the rates for female models: A Solo scene is 500$-600$, a g/g is 500$-800$, b/g is 600$-1300$ and TS/girl is 700$-1100$. My guess is that the higher amounts are because it includes anal penetration or the model is in high demand. The cost for male talent is a lot cheaper. Rate for a male in b/g scene is 200$-400$. I suspect that some males make more money but rarely much more than 500$. If I do a quick calculation than a basic vaginal b/g scene will cost as little as 800$ to as much as 1700$. Since you need more than one scene than simply multiply those amounts by at least 10 to get a cost of 8000$ to 17,000$. of course those amounts are all before you have made a single penny of profit.


2-Do you live in or around Los Angeles or possibly near Miami? Location is one of the biggest hurdle for producers of porn because finding talent is a lot easier in cities that already have a porn industry. It's also a lot cheaper because you probably don't have to add travel cost to your budget. Flying an LA performer to Texas to shoot one or two scene is significantly more expensive than asking her to drive to a designated location. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-12-14  05:32pm - 44 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #2
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Can you elaborate a little more on what you mean when you say producing porn? Are you talking about making movies where you and/or your wife would appear on screen having sex or are you talking about hiring talent and shooting those people having sex with each other? Long live the Brown Coats.

10-06-14  01:52pm - 50 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - #18
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Originally Posted by zhaileyramareer:


Are there other reviews sites , as good as this thebestporn...
I'm looking for a list of sites that has chinese traffic? Does anyone know?



You probably won't find it because I'm pretty sure that porn is illegal in China. That's not to say that Chinese people don't watch porn but I don't think they make any and they certainly don't advertise it. The State has a dim view of porn in general in China. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-05-14  05:30pm - 51 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #15
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^I think because he wanted to avoid naming every Country except the US. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-01-14  02:49pm - 55 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #9
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^I get the feeling from reading your post that you don't understand the situation. It's not a question of Foreign sites not being able to compete with the US so much as it's them hoping that they reach as many customers as possible and you have to offer English or else you are doomed to never be able to move beyond regional. There is a reason why French, German, Italian, Eastern European sites/studios choose to all offer their content in English. Don't forget that English is the language of business which means that you need it to make money.

If you stop and think about it. How many sites do you personally know that are only in a Foreign language and do not also offer English? I know maybe 2 and that's it. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-27-14  05:54pm - 59 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #2
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I don't think it exist. The vast majority of porn sites want to reach as many people as possible and to do that than you need to have everything in English. Just like every other business on the planet than wants to do that. It makes sense and if you stop and consider it than can you think of more than one or two possible sites that are worth joining that aren't also in English? I'm aware of 2 or maybe 3 French porn sites that are still French only that might be worth a look but that's about it. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-24-14  05:45pm - 62 days the danger of cloud based systems (19 Posts) - #20
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^We are in 2014 and I take care of part of the recycling in our company and we are still using paper like there was no end. Just an example. We fill out our time sheet on the computer but we have to print a copy so that the boss can sign it and give it to payroll. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-22-14  01:56pm - 64 days the danger of cloud based systems (19 Posts) - #17
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^Not a bad analogy but about this one. It's like storing all your personal stuff in a public storage area where you supposedly are the only one with a key (except the owners of the storage unit) but anyone with enough time can open your locker and steal your stuff.

I am of the belief that few people do something for nothing and that no corporation does that so why would they offer free storage on their servers if it wasn't going to be beneficial to them now or in the near future.

on a related note. If celebrities thought that they had seen the end of those released photos and videos then tis weekend was another wake up call. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-19-14  06:33pm - 67 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #8
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I don't know if they are owned by the same people but it's clear that they were designed by the same company. I don't remember if the site claim to have exclusive material but if they do than that is a blatant lie because a lot of it is available elsewhere.

Teen Mega World has some of it. Long live the Brown Coats.

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