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07-09-10  07:24am - 1475 days BPSite New Sites Page Becoming a Pain ! - Clone/Mobiles/Micros - Rubbish Spam (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
OneMan (27)
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BPSite New Sites Page Becoming a Pain ! - Clone/Mobiles/Micros - Rubbish Spam

I really am getting annoyed more and more as time goes on.

The new sites page was usually a weekly if not bi-daily event for me, but more and more we are seeing cloned sites, mobile sites (just re-sized videos from extant sites)and the dreaded "micro sites" - where webmasters simply split up a decent sized site and put each girl with as little as FIVE videos on her OWN "site".

Come on guys, the "New Sites" page is starting to resemble spam.

It's a pain in the ass now just to filter through all the dross, and it should really be cleaned up a little.

Clone sites should not be included in the list, and mobile sites should possibly have a seperate page... if you're interested.

I only really want to see full-blown, fully-fledged new sites please.

Am I the only person to be annoyed by this recent trend ?

It's bad enough that certain types of site even exist, but to thave them take up space on the front page of TBP site, is really annoying! Edited on Jul 09, 2010, 07:27am

11-11-09  08:29am - 1715 days Are clearly labeled pre-checked cross sales ethical? (22 Posts) - #23
OneMan (27)
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I once visted a site a few years ago and got as far as the join page. Had second thoughts, so I never clicked to submit. I just closed the window. But they had my info and signed me up anyway! That's only happened once, but if it's not a site you're sure of, it's best to be cautious.


Good reason to start using virtual / prepaid credit cards.....they can seriously limit your potential loss due to fraud or "unrthical" practices, and are pretty much disposable. I use Tuxedo, but there are many out there.

11-11-09  08:25am - 1715 days Tiny Teen Pass is Ripping Us Off - does TBP Condone This ? (14 Posts) - #14
OneMan (27)
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Good stuff.

The 9.99 I referred to was never refunded either ! So, clearly they are also deceiving the credit card processor too.

I learned the hard way about instant upsells and cross sells, but sometimes they just push the envelope too far....at which point it is necessary to bring it to the TBP staff's attention.

Good to see they are prepared to communicate their distaste to the company, and take action if they are not prepared to "play fair".

Good result.....unfortunately, not everyone uses the TBP site....shame, as it would put these types out of business.

10-31-09  07:01am - 1726 days Tiny Teen Pass is Ripping Us Off - does TBP Condone This ? (14 Posts) - #8
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To be honest though....de-listing is defeating the purpose.

I think the comments re: dishonesty should be retained. It is important that we know about these sites.....

I often see that "TBP Has Discontinued Its Relationship With This Site".....but this is open to interpretation by the user reading it.

TBP cannot say "Because they are Dishonest Scumbags!"... as this would open them up to legal action.

So, they should leave the Users' comments as they are, so we can all read them and be in no doubt as to the reason WHY they have been 'banned' or delisted.

10-26-09  11:27am - 1731 days Defrauded by adult site...would you chase after the lost money... (21 Posts) - #20
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Bump....my this post has gone quiet !

Just had another problem with a site.

Best action...is re-action.....slate them on their review page and tell them you're gonna do it.

Then they can see other's opinions and how many people will read about them !

I just replied to a guy who is considering considering joining this site as I write.

Hopefully, he will now steer clear....so the 9.99 they ripped me for, will pale in significance to the 30 they lost from just him, together with who knows how many others, who will hopefully avoid the site in the future.

Porn Users is like the rating system at EBay...the only way to know if a site can be trusted. There are so many good and honest sites now, that dodgy ones will not survive long.

Long live PU and TBP.

10-26-09  11:20am - 1731 days Teen boys having sex with teen girls (19 Posts) - #9
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TeenMegaWorld or Nubiles (the latter less so) is a good one too.

Most are guys that look like, and may well be, their boyfriends !

Don't expect fireworks though....there's lots of condoms and the action is pretty low key if you are used to Hustler and Leah Luv going at it hammer and wotsits! (Bless her cotton socks !)

But, the Eastern Euro girls are sooooooh frickin hot, even though, they don't say much - for obvious reasons.

The main problem I have is convincing myself they are not being "forced" into it....looks can be deceptive. I guess, I'm a little old fashioned, as the "east" has changed a lot in recent times.

10-26-09  11:09am - 1731 days Are clearly labeled pre-checked cross sales ethical? (22 Posts) - #19
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See my posts on TeenRevPass networks !

I also joined another site before, that introduced me to the delights of Instant Upsells !!!!

Pre-checked cross sells are one thing.....ethical ? Well....not really.

But you should be more concerned with exposing Instant Upsells which I believe are illegal....if they were tested in a court.

Companies should be 100% transparent.....anything shady or designed to "catch you out" is NOT ethical...it is not morally acceptable.

Pre-checked anything is not on in my book !

Some firms even do it on the Cancellation Page for cripes sake !

I truly feel that you should have 3 categories of warning instead of the current 1.

1. Cross sells at sign up
2. Instant Upsells on member or trial pages
3. Cross sells at cancellation. (excuse the double "ll s" I am a Brit !

The one I had this weekend, "disguised" the cross sell as "Free Video" on the cancellation page. Man !

This comes at an interesting time, as I am currently studying a university level course in "Applied Ethics".

To be honest, it may be prudent for you guys to place a warning on your site, that suggests....if in doubt about the ethical policies of a site you may be considering joining - whether because of the 'look and feel' of it, or from other users' comments - always use a "virtual"/pre-paid credit card. This limits the amount that can be 'lost' through dodgy websites.

Prepaid cards allow you to load them with just enough to join your site.....then check out your membership details and emails, before loading it any further....preferably cancelling the current site before loading it any more ! Edited on Oct 26, 2009, 11:16am

10-26-09  10:59am - 1731 days Anyone heard of tinyteenpass.com ? (9 Posts) - #7
OneMan (27)
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Woahhh!!!! Hold on and read my posts on the relevant pages for these sites.

Dodgy stuff.......

http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...d.html?threadid=1092

and

http://www.pornusers.com/review/allteenrevpass/

See Drackens comments here also:

http://www.pornusers.com/review/littleapril/


Imo - having joined some time ago, and from what I saw from the "trial" at the weekend - the sites in the main are very poor quality.....vids are few and around 700 kbps. None have been updated for 4 years.....there are two new ones but look very small and I doubt the qulaity is any better.

I had trouble with unwanted charges over the weekend and got BS back about it.

Go to TeenMegaWorld or Nubiles instead.....I assure you, they are 1000% better - and 100% trustworthy.

10-26-09  10:54am - 1731 days Your Advice to Site Owners (34 Posts) - #25
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Never use Instant Upselling links....especially in the members area.

These "money pixels" are the devils work and arguably not legal.

When I find them, thankfully not that often, I will report them widely and never use that company again. It is disgusting.

They are usually found in conjunction with Cross-Selling links on the Cancellation page....which again, is highly annoying !

10-26-09  10:52am - 1731 days Tiny Teen Pass is Ripping Us Off - does TBP Condone This ? (14 Posts) - #6
OneMan (27)
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Well apparently, they will be refunded the 9.99.

"The charge of $9.95 is only a pre-authorization to ensure that the credit card
used is valid and there is room on the card if ever the membership is upgraded.
But we assure you that this is not an actual charge but just a temporary hold on
the funds that will usually fall off your bank within 72 hours once the membership
has been canceled."

..........is what the credit card processor said......


Sound like bull to me.....9.99 as a check ? No way....and besides they said nothing about the rebill after 3 days for the trial I NEVER signed up to ! so, they would have got 9.99 anyway as I knew nothing about it as no email confirming the trial was sent to me.

These dodgy practices are rare...to be fair, but I have come across 2 now, and I only join 1 site every 3 months or so !

Oh well.

10-25-09  04:12am - 1732 days Tiny Teen Pass is Ripping Us Off - does TBP Condone This ? (14 Posts) - #4
OneMan (27)
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Hi,

Sounds good.
Make sure you join via the "...$1 2-day trial access..." and particularly note the:

1. instant upsells on the "trial page"

2. leave the "Send me a DVD" box, checked on the cancellation page. then check your credit card account and your "transactions" on their card processing company site.

3. Also note how you do not receive an email to say that you are now signed up for - not a DVD - but trial access to a (really crappy) DVD site, AND it will be rebilled after 3-days !

This site is very dodgy. Edited on Oct 25, 2009, 04:17am

10-24-09  09:44am - 1733 days Tiny Teen Pass is Ripping Us Off - does TBP Condone This ? (14 Posts) - #2
OneMan (27)
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It has dawned on me how they managed to charge me for the 3 day DVD site access at $10.

When I cancelled the $1 2-day trial to TTP, on the cancelation page there was a box that said "Cancel and Send me a DVD".

I thought nothing about this.....clearly this is what it was !

However, there was no confirmation or email confirming I had now joined another site.

This is basically, then, an "instant upsell" on the cancellation page !!!!! WTF ????

I have had experience of this before though.

Another site I joined recently, used "instant upsells" throughout the member area...absolutely disgustingm and they also used them on their cancellation page.

I really think credit card processing firms should not allow this instant upselling. There is no express offer and acceptance, and the fact that you rarely know that you've joined a trial, means that they then rob you some more with rebills.

Disgraceful.

10-24-09  06:18am - 1733 days Tiny Teen Pass is Ripping Us Off - does TBP Condone This ? (14 Posts) - Original Post - #1
OneMan (27)
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Tiny Teen Pass is Ripping Us Off - does TBP Condone This ?

I have just tried the trial of All Teen Rev Pass (also known as Tiny Teen Pass.

This includes all the Little Summer, Little April (see latest user review by someone else this week !) and the newer sites of Tiny Tyler and Little Bree.

I joined for the 2 day trial for $1 and it was appaling. Only 2 little streams from some of the sites, and the page is littered with "Instant Upsells" which has been discussed on here before.

Now, I'm already 'wise' to instant upsells and to unchecking cross-sells on the sign up page.....so why did they automatically sign me up to a 3 day trial for some bogus DVD site too ? $10 they charged for that...a total of $11 for rubbish.

I did not even get to see the full sites - which I wanted to do - see how many vids there were, check out the quality etc.....and they ripped me off.

To rub salt in the wounds....if I hadn't gone to their credit card billing agent and checked the purchase detials, I would not even have been aware of the extra subscription, which would apparently have rebilled after 3 days at $40.

This sort of company is disgusting.

1. I definitely, unchecked all the boxes on sign-up.

2. No email was sent to say I'd joined a trial for TWO sites. I had only ONE email, saying I had joined TinyTeenPass but nothing about the more expensive DVD site (and the DVD site was bogus anyways). This is clearly deception...as they don't want you to know about it, so it rebilled after 3 days.

3. The trial was a joke....and the page was littered with instant-upselling links.

Something should be done to boycott these sites.

I have also had a link saying I have access to a webcam site. I wonder if I will be billed for that in 3 days time ?


See my comments also here:
http://www.pornusers.com/review/allteenrevpass/ Edited on Oct 24, 2009, 06:37am

10-03-09  03:03pm - 1754 days Why do you pay for porn? (67 Posts) - #34
OneMan (27)
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There is also the problem of never being 100% sure, exactly what you're downloading on torrents etc......VERY dodgy and could land you in a heap of trouble.

10-03-09  03:01pm - 1754 days Defrauded by adult site...would you chase after the lost money... (21 Posts) - #19
OneMan (27)
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


It's no joke about credit card markets. Where I work, we had a customer in Nigeria that was shipped without prepayment - I dunno how that happened! I recently sent them to Collections. They provided the Collection Agency with 3 credit card #'s to charge - each one for 1/3 of the balance. None of the charges went through. They gave 3 more credit card #'s. None of them went through. I told the Collection Agency, "no more of this crap! These people are clearly buying credit card #'s in bulk from some Russian hackers - if we ever succeeded in putting them through, we'd have some poor guy in Kansas wondering why we charged their credit card." We haven't succeeded in collecting it yet, but at least we aren't putting through charges on stolen credit card #s.


The real problem lies in recharges.....it should be banned universally. Fraud is FAR too easy unless the cardholder authorises the payment EVERY time.

Also, there should be a link to your own bank each time so a password needs to be used, to prevent fraudsters grabbing your details and using the card whenever they want.

It is not rocket science to prevent fraud completely...an average 10 year old could devise a system better than the current one.

In the UK we have just reveived a calculator type thingey that creates a "one use only" pin number. But, at present it is only to be used on the banks website ! Pointless so far then.....

But, it could be done and made universal....any independent can leech credit card details.......and 3 months later start using it......small amounts only, multiplid by thousands of cards soon adds up, but most people will neither notice, nor care.

10-03-09  02:54pm - 1754 days Defrauded by adult site...would you chase after the lost money... (21 Posts) - #18
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Prepaid Cards only from now on, for me.

Always keep just �20-30 in there - I can top it up for less than a pound around the corner..... 8-)

The most I can lose is �20.......

Oh, and NEVER use independent processors, especially in South America or Russia.

07-19-09  03:50am - 1830 days Automatic authorization of sites (24 Posts) - #18
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Hi Again Rick,

The problem with "suspending" reviews on "dodgy" companies, is that poeple are then unaware of the problems !

I feel that TheBestPorn.com and PornUsers.com sites, should have a clearly marked section, where a list of sites that are using unacceptable practices, can be listed, with full details of "problems" therein.

Also,a "Charter" should be created, which lists and defines levels of acceptable behaviour for websites.

This would allow "offenders" to be identified and labelled as such, in accoradance with objective parameters.

07-17-09  03:00pm - 1832 days Auto Upselling - is it criminal ? I've Been Robbed ! (16 Posts) - #6
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So I guess, the answer is to VERY careful, even when you are a member of a site......I have learned a lesson....but it is a shame that sites like this use these underhand methods in this day and age.

But of course, my review of the site is yet to come..!..oh dear....I feel a dish best served cold...coming on !

You should not expect to have to be careful what you click on inside the members area...come on...am I being unreasonable here ? !

I dare not "explore" the site now.

07-17-09  02:58pm - 1832 days Auto Upselling - is it criminal ? I've Been Robbed ! (16 Posts) - #5
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IN ANSWER TO RICKS REPLY, I HAVE MADE AN AMMENDMENT TO MY ORIGINAL COMMENT AGAINST THE WEBSITE CONCERNED AND REPRODUCE IT BELOW:


UPDATE:
AFTER A CONVERSATION WITH A MEMBER OF THE www.THEBESTPORN.COM STAFF, I SHOULD ADD THAT THE LINK ACTUALLY SAID "CLICK FOR FULL ACCESS TO DVDS". RICK FEELS IT WAS CLEARLY AN INSTANT UPSELL.

HOWEVER.....I have never seen this type of thing before....I was searching for the DVDs whic I believed on the strength of a user review, were free to access. What I found was a stealth charge, whereby my explicit, contractual consent - via a secure signup page - was not presented to me.

Even it is legal, contractually it wasn't ! So, in terms of contract law, there was no clear, explicit offer and acceptance.

Disgraceful.

07-17-09  01:06pm - 1832 days Auto Upselling - is it criminal ? I've Been Robbed ! (16 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Auto Upselling - is it criminal ? I've Been Robbed !

I just joined Megasite.com and while inside the "safe" members area, I clicked on a link to see the DVD section....and it automatically "joined me up" to a different DVD site.

I wasn't expressly asked, nor was I told that clicking on the link would sign me up.

I was nota asked for my credit card details again, either.

I was joined up to the downloadporn.com site and ironically, you can't even download stuff...streaming only !

I feel robbed, and that "thebestporn.com" should have a list of sites that use this spurious method to extort cash from you.

I have never seen this before.

I am aware of cross-selling.....at the time of registration, but thios is entirely differnet.

"Safebilling" is the company that processes it, and the URL it goes to is www.safebilling.com/instant_upselling

It is disgusting! Edited by Staff on Jul 17, 2009, 01:16pm (Khan: Direct URL Edited)

04-10-08  05:35am - 2295 days Natasha Shy (6 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Natasha Shy

Anyone seen this site ? It is on TBP's list of "To Do", but not high priority.

I feel a "joining site" coming on - with a review me thinks !

Natasha Shy
[ link added by Admin ] Edited by Staff on Apr 10, 2008, 12:06pm (Khan: added URL)

04-10-08  05:34am - 2295 days External harddrive (33 Posts) - #5
OneMan (27)
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The most highly reviwed drive is the Samsung Spinpoint 500GB

Can pick them up for around £50 - very nice indeed. But it is an internal drive so you will need a motherboard with external SATA 11 connections.

They are 10x faster than USB drives and therefore worht the inconvenience.

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