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01-08-15  02:54am - 57 days Question re recurring memberships (16 Posts) - #13
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Likewise, though I am obviously right and you're wrong. Just joking -).

01-07-15  11:50am - 57 days Question re recurring memberships (16 Posts) - #11
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I don't think we're ever gonna agree on this cuz it seems we are coming from different political camps.

Of course I know about napster and all the napsters of the world. And believe it or not, they still exist except in much smaller numbers and aren't so obvious about it. What.cd has virtually any movie or song you ever wanted. So, why buy from amazon when you can get it for nothing at what.cd? I like to think that most people wanna do the right thing.

Frankiy, napster and all its cousins would have been out of business in no time if the record companies weren't so resistant to change. If they embraced the new technology instead of trying to throw people in jail, everyone would have been a lot better off... except for napster. I don't think we see less pirating because of the laws that were passed. On the contrary, the pirating went on even after strict laws were passed. Things only changed when the record companies woke up and decided to make downloads available through legal sites like amazon and iTunes.

I'm not a libertarian by any means, but I do think enacting laws to cure every ill in society is not the answer.

01-06-15  03:15am - 59 days Question re recurring memberships (16 Posts) - #9
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I respect your opinion but disagree with the entire premise. There are constant changes in technology. That applies to virtually every industry. The growing pains of porn are not any different than the recent changes in other industries, i.e., auto industry, movies, music, etc. Change is natural and if mostly left alone, i.e., no government or outside interference, it results in a more efficient product. That is an inherent principle of capitalism, no? Paysites might be hurting now, but in the long run, everyone will be better off... that is, if history is correct.

I don't want to get into a long discussion about this, but I'll point out one example. I've been a music fan and collector all my life. Record stores were like a second home to me. When the digital revolution erupted, which over a short period changed the entire face of the industry, I rebelled. It hurt to see my favorite institution dying, the record store. For years, I continued shopping in what were becoming dwindling stores and paying more and inconveniencing myself more. I still go to record stores on occasion, but that's mostly a nostalgic thing now.

Originally Posted by pat362:


You don't have to be sympathetic but did you ever think that one of the reasons why sites aren't able to retain recurring memberships has absolutely nothing to do with the type of the porn they produce. How many past members go look for that sites stuff on tube and torrent sites once their membership is done? I don't know the number but it has to be huge when you consider the popularity of all those so called free porn sites. Maybe it's a generational thing. I mean I'm from the era where you saw maybe a dozen movies come out per month (if that many) and who couldn't afford to buy even one of them because they were each about 100$. Even buying a dvd today is about 20$ and you get 4-5 scenes unless it's a compilation.

One site may cost you 20$ but you will get as few as 4 scenes to as many as 30 unless it's a site like Videobox. easily get a dozen or more



They aren't but they need money to make porn. Now I'm not suggesting that you join a site whose work you don't like but maybe you could invest a little of your hard earned cash in a site whose stuff you like even if they only have 4 or 5 good scenes. I know 5$ for one scene seems high but ask yourself how much money you spent eating in a fast food restaurant for a meal that was mediocre and you won't ever be able to eat that meal again while a good scene is still good 5 years from now.



I think you have an unrealistic idea of what it costs to produce porn. Producing porn is expensive. one single b/g scene cost a producer about 3000$ so if a site updates with just one scene per week than it's a monthly cost of 12,000$.
That's just the cost of producing it. porn providers have to them pay CC processing fees, Server fees, rental fees, affiliate programs fees. Studios could easily afford this 5 years ago because the ratio of paying customers to low life freeloaders was still skewed toward the black but that slowly changed in the last 5 years and today the low life outweigh the paying customers by a wide margin.

You want to know just how bad I think it now is. Just look at Videobox. Once upon a time this was the go to example for good but inexpensive porn. I guess in many ways it still is but only if you are new to internet porn because their library is gigantic but how many recurring members is VB able to retain now? How many movies are actually worth joining for each month? I looked at their most recent updates and the vast majority of them are at least 5 years old, not exclusive and some of it you probably already own because it's part of a comp movie you downloaded 3 years ago.

01-05-15  02:06am - 60 days Question re recurring memberships (16 Posts) - #6
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


The key advantage for websites of recurring memberships is regular income. If all members just buy single-month memberships 2-4 times per year, income fluctuates wildly, budgeting becomes extremely difficult (as does paying staff etc.) and sites tend to go bust.

The business model for recurring memberships (even with a very small monthly fee) is just much safer and more stable. The alternative is unreliable, causes accounting problems and (in the UK at least) can cause a headache with tax as we end up paying tax on income we may or may not get and then have to claim it back months later.

This is another reason why paysites are so keen to pile on other benefits (beyond the downloadable content) which cannot be just ripped and stored, to encourage stable income.


Let me preface what I have to say that it is not directed at you personally but at the industry.

Frankly, I am not sympathetic to paysites that are not able to attract recurring memberships. It's not as if you're a charity and I'm gonna spend money just to keep you guys in business. You'd have to make it worthwhile. You say that paysites pile on other benefits. Can you elaborate? I don't recall coming across any website that provided any benefit other than a negligible smaller charge for recurring with the exception of the ones mentioned above by RA. Even those sites don't fit my cost/benefit model.

I took a quick look at your site, stripgamecentral. A 30 day membership is about $15 and change (converted) while recurring is about $12 and change. Assuming you add 1 video a day, something most sites don't do, the cost would be about 40 cents for each video. While that's seemingly cheap, it's still about twice the cost, at least for me -- my comparison is for a site that costs $40 for a month and I download 200 videos, which is about my norm.

Another downside is variety. It seems most websites offer the same old same old, i.e., the scenes are all the same or similar scenarios as is most everything else. People grow weary of that.

Sorry to be a contrarian and there's nothing more that I'd like but to find a site I like and retain my membership indefinitely rather than constantly going through the hassle of finding new sites. But there needs to be radical change.

01-04-15  04:06am - 60 days Question re recurring memberships (16 Posts) - #4
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Recurring payments, fees, etc., are a pet peeve. Unless you are getting a benefit from doing so, the only one benefitting is the seller. The selling point is "convenience" to the consumer. What baloney. How inconvenient is it to click a button, or god forbid, write a check? This applies to everything, i.e., magazines, utilities, amazon prime (which I just opted out of), etc. I prefer having a choice, and that was my rationale with amazon prime... they weren't offering any benefit for automatically renewing and I know very well they will let me know when my subscription is expiring.

As it relates to porn, I have never had a recurring membership and I can't think of an instance where that'll ever happen. Even with a discount, the cost/benefit does not exist, at least for me. After the first month I've generally downloaded all I want. No site I know of offers enough new material each month to warrant even a discounted price. RA already did the math. I've gone back to a couple of sights after 6 months or so to get new material, but that's as far as I'll go. The very first thing I do when I join a porn site is to cancel my membership so I don't forget to later on. Edited on Jan 04, 2015, 04:12am

12-27-14  08:41am - 68 days Merry Christmas from Us to You (4 Posts) - #5
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And a happy Channukah to y'all. And who'd've thunk that I'd still be here a year later after a, um, auspicious beginning. But this place is worth it.

12-05-14  03:15am - 91 days Sorry for my sudden absentee departure, guys . But I had no choice (22 Posts) - #2
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They probably found out you were into soft porn and disapproved. I guess they're more hard core types. -)

On a more serious note, glad to see you back. I (and most likely others) was wondering where you were and if that everything was ok. Glad to hear all ended well.

12-03-14  01:37pm - 92 days See Ya Guys and Gals (12 Posts) - #7
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I agree, most anything goes in the forum and it's a great way to get to know one another. What I was trying to say, although apparently not very clearly, is that I don't understand leaving this site over topics or opinions expressed in the forum. I don't agree with a lot of things that are said in the forum. However, by far, the main reason I am a member is for the reviews and info on sites. And I believe that is the main purpose for the site's existence.

Anyway, to each his own.

12-03-14  04:51am - 92 days See Ya Guys and Gals (12 Posts) - #5
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For craps sake, isn't this is a porn review site whose focus is porn reviews, not politics. Unless I misunderstand.

11-15-14  03:19am - 111 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #741
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Originally Posted by pat362:


... I don't know if you are aware but it's quite illegal to shoot someone under the influence of a controlled substance. To shoot porn you have to give consent and that is not really possible when you are by definition not in control of all of them.


I love the way you phrase that. -)

10-24-14  07:21am - 132 days Site recommendations (6 Posts) - #5
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Right, I forgot, the semi-soft site, haha. Too bad there's not more HC on the site. But alas, I joined anyway out of desperation. -)

10-24-14  03:17am - 133 days Site recommendations (6 Posts) - #3
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AW, sorry, what's the site again? Thanks.

10-23-14  04:33pm - 133 days Site recommendations (6 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Site recommendations

Hopefully this will pertain to others here and I'm not being selfish.

I got the jones, I need some fresh videos and am looking for recommendations. I've browsed this site and can't seem to find anything I missed, but it's a huge site and I might have overlooked something. So, help! Here's what I'm looking for, ideally, though I'll settle for something close.

* No pro or few pro actors, natural bodies, minimal or no tatoos, body piercings, etc.

* Non US, preferably Latin or from someplace different, i.e., Vietnam. I am not ruling out American entirely if there's something that meets my criteria. But I like foreign.

* Hardcore BG and BGG but not over the top

* I'm Japanesed out I think... I don't think there's much I haven't seen, at least genre-wise.

* And of course, a somewhat reputable site, or a place I'm not gonna get ripped off. I do care about quality but I don't care about most other things like navigation.

To give you an idea of my likes... 18x, club seventeen, chech av, double view, oye loca, teen mega world, teen core club and yes.

Thanks for any ideas.

10-18-14  07:57am - 138 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #728
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


This thread in my opinion is designed to provide sites to be considered. For now TBP /PU does not set a condition in having reviewed or have been a members at sites submitted
this seems like and official /unofficial way its been done for quite some time. 04-03-08 08:44am - 2388 days ago lol

Of course and email can be dropped at TBP to let them know but this is a nice public way, based on the first post in this thread in 2008 this was not the plan for the thread but it kinda blossomed into it.


Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the mention of sites not listed. I'm always looking for new stuff, at least since I joined here and started downloading. I haven't joined a site for a while cuz I can't seem to find anything interesting that I don't have. So, yes skinnys, keep on posting. I just thought it a bit odd that he didn't join any of these sites. We might have to buy him a membership, haha.

10-17-14  05:26am - 139 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #725
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Originally Posted by skinnys:


... I'm letting other people give reviews & comments about those sites because I don't have the money myself to join those sites and give them my reviews or comments.


Can you explain? There's something that strikes me about that statement being fundamentally wrong. Basically it says, to me anyway, that you search the internet for porn sites, don't join for monetary reasons and hope for them to be reviewed by someone. It's none of my business and if you don't wanna answer, that's fine... what is your motivation?

10-12-14  05:01am - 144 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #718
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Errr... guessing you missed this in the several other places in this thread where I posted it:


I must be blind cuz I still don't see the response, but I'll take your word for it, haha. My review will be posted in a few moments. What a let down!

10-11-14  10:26am - 145 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #715
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Not sure why no response to this, but I did join. It's a new-ish site and that could be the reason it's not listed. If the PU gods decide to list it, and I see no reason not to except that Australian is definitely a foreign language, haha, I'll give my inept review.

10-11-14  01:16am - 146 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #714
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


I came across an Australian-themed site the other day, aussieass.com. I often like to use TBP/PU to gather a bit of intel and get a gist of what a site's about, but these guys aren't listed on either.


+1

10-02-14  03:19am - 155 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #12
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Thanks AW. However, it seems a bit too soft for my tastes, though this is the type of independent site I was referring to. From what I can see, it's all or mostly solo wimmin. I don't want to get into the details on the forum though - would you mind posting a comment or review on their page here? The only reviews are ancient. Thanks again.

10-01-14  03:49pm - 155 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #10
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Nah, I get the drift. It's mostly a matter of poor communication skills on my part. My goal is not necessarily to find a non-English site or review site. Like many of us here who seem to be turned off by the commercialism of porn, fake gonzo tits, ridiculously unrealistic scenes, piercings, tatoos, etc., I'm much happier with smaller independent material. I mistakenly thought that I stood my best chance of finding that stuff on non-english sites. However, there are many sites from Europe and Japan which are in English that fit the bill. While the sites are generally in English, the videos are often not. I've been very happy with many of these sites as well as a couple of foreign language sites I've found. Again, like many of us, I'm simply looking for something outside the box and not your typical San Fernanado valley porn, something I detest.

10-01-14  03:11am - 156 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #8
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Thanks loads for the link.

Unfortunately, a quick perusal shows the same sites you see everywhere else. I was under the mistaken notion that there would be lots of foreign sites listed. But as you intimated , it seems no one has the resources to compare to the US.

09-27-14  06:35pm - 159 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #4
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At least I'm consistent.

09-27-14  04:12pm - 159 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Foreign sites

My understanding is that it's ok to talk about non English sites as long as you don't mention a URL.

Can someone point me in the direction of a place that reviews such sites? How would I go about finding them? Lord knows I've tried.

I am looking for such a site NOT in place of this one, but in conjunction with it.

09-25-14  05:22pm - 161 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #704
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Originally Posted by Khan:


jook, not sure how I can say it any better than I did in my last reply to you on this subject. As a refresher, you can see it here ...
http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...99&showPost=8#_8

I know you wish we'd do non-English sites. I get that. And I won't say we'll never list them. However, for now, it's beyond the scope of services we provide.

Sorry I can't help more.


Maybe if you replied in Japanese I would understand, haha.

Seriously, I don't know the dynamics of running this site or most any site so forgive me if I keep pushing for something that is not possible. And forgive the next question... I'm not trying to give you a difficult time, I just don't know...

Is it allowable to discuss foreign sites in the forum?

09-24-14  01:23am - 163 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #701
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Khan, you probably hate my guts already for pushing for foreign porn to be listed. However, I'll take my chances and comment again. In the case of the site mentioned above, I get it in English with the translator that comes with Chrome and asks if you want a site translated. Everything was clear and understandable. If Chrome can translate the site so easily, I imagine other browsers can do the same. It was also evident that this site is not for me, haha.

09-24-14  01:23am - 163 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #700
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Khan, you probably hate my guts already for pushing for foreign porn to be listed. However, I'll take my chances and comment again. In the case of the site mentioned above, I get it in English with the translator that comes with Chrome and asks if you want a site translated. Everything was clear and understandable. If Chrome can translate the site so easily, I imagine other browsers can do the same. It was also evident that this site is not for me, haha.

09-19-14  02:50pm - 167 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #7
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I feel the same way except when it comes to sites such as this. It's worth the extra $10 or so to me to feel safe in the credit card transaction, know that there is real support and a good quality product. Too bad it's not entirely up my alley, though close. -)

09-19-14  11:45am - 167 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #696
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I'm not a lawyer either so I never offer legal advice. I was simply pointing out to users what might be a troublesome clause in the site's terms of service. If it would hold up in court is anyone's guess but it's something users need to know going in, imo. Bottom line, who wants to join a site that they have to consult a lawyer about?


I agree wholeheartedly. I would never join such a site whether they could enforce the rule or not. I was just making a comment, no reflection on you. On the contrary, it's good to know what these places are putting in their terms since some of us in our haste skip over them, including me. My feeling is that any site that has to threaten potential customers doesn't deserve my business.

09-19-14  05:39am - 167 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #5
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Thanks, but I was looking for something a bit more hardcore. Anything else available in your repertoire?

09-19-14  03:14am - 168 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #3
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I might get 20 lashes for asking this here, but please, a little mercy and since it's being discussed...

I'm inquiring about WOW porn. The review is over a year old, hence my question here. How is it different than 18x or WOW girls? I like the latter 2 sites but find them a little too "soft."

09-19-14  03:03am - 168 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (724 Posts) - #693
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I'll ask the editors to take a look at that site but yeah, we have quite a few 3D sites listed here.

You can put "3d" in the easy search (right hand menu) and get those listed above or you can use the "Browse Sites" link and use "Hentai" as the niche (put zero for min reviews to list all)

BTW, I would encourage anyone who's considering joining the site suggested to carefully read the terms for the site. Pay close attention to all clauses addressing "liquid damages". For instance, if you do a charge-back the terms say you'll reimburse them. If you don't do it promptly, they'll charge you $100 in damages plus the amount you charged back.


Just browsing this thread and came across this. I wonder what legal or otherwise justification they have for a legitimate or even illegitimate dispute resulting in chargeback. This is a new one on me. Just cuz you put something in the terms doesn't necessarily mean it's legal or enforceable. I cannot see any US or European bank honoring such a term unless it's legal and fraud was committed by the user. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.

09-17-14  04:26am - 169 days Usenet (22 Posts) - #19
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Back to my OP.

I had joined usenet.com on a trial at the same time I posted my message here. After a 3 day trial, it becomes a recurring subscription for $9.99/mo. until you cancel. I decided not to pursue it after the comments made here. Cancellation must be done online. However, I could not get my password to work. I emailed numerous times and spent several hours trying to resolve the problem, but nothing worked. I emailed and told them I only wanted to cancel and asked them to cancel me. They refused!!! They said I had to go online to do it. Duh, here we go, catch 22. When I told them I couldn't get on their site because I couldn't log on, they came up with a crazy fix... delete this file, do a few hula hoops, blah blah. I actually tried their fix and it didn't work. Still, they wouldn't budge and cancel my account.

So, I was charged. I easily got my bank to charge it back. I was finally able to get their phone number from the credit card statement. And of course, it's a generic voice mail and no one returned my call. My bank even tried. My concern is that this is going to become a monthly routine. My bank says they can't do anything. Even if I canceled the card, the charge would follow any new card I got from them. There is no way to stop this except by canceling my card altogether and going to another bank, something I don't want to do.

All you guys who whine about how shady some porn sites are (including me!), they are not the only mine field out there in the internet wilderness. Anyone have a suggestion?

09-12-14  04:32am - 174 days Usenet (22 Posts) - #16
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I feel the opposite. Things were much simpler. Any yo yo could be a computer wiz and I was one back then. I read manuals from cover to cover and became proficient in DOS, Novell, basic programming, lotus 123, etc. now I have a mac that you can only open to upgrade memory and I'm dependent on tech support for minor problems. Once windoze came out, things started to change rapidly and I had no time to keep up.

But there's no looking back. It's amazing how much we've progressed. Who would've thunk that one day we'd be able to watch porn in HD on a 27" screen, haha.

09-11-14  04:46pm - 175 days Usenet (22 Posts) - #14
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Who woulda thunk I'd be playing eeny meeny miney moe in deciding to get an iPhone 6.

09-11-14  04:42pm - 175 days Usenet (22 Posts) - #13
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You're all a bunch of old men living in the past.

Ok, me too, haha. Radio Shack TRS-80 was my first, late 70s.

09-08-14  04:25pm - 178 days Usenet (22 Posts) - #6
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Ok, just asking. I thought usenet might have changed. Thanks for the warnings.

09-07-14  03:50pm - 179 days Usenet (22 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Usenet

I haven't checked out newgroups for at least a few years. I never downloaded porn from there, just music. Can anyone report on the status of porn sites there, like is it worth bothering with?

09-02-14  05:40pm - 184 days I wanna refund! (1 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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I wanna refund!

Yeah, I know, fat chance. I joined the worst site ever last week. [See comments.] Their newest content is from 2011 and the quality is so bad that I find it unwatchable. Anyway, I'm chalking it up to a learning experience. However, I received no response to my requests to cancel. I paid by credit card and one of my requests to cancel was sent by email. Will my bank reverse any possible future charges?

08-30-14  05:22am - 187 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - #9
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Entiendo, haha. I understand now. I forgot that I asked the same question shortly after I joined. Your answer apparently never sunk in until now.

I guess I'm pretty choosy about which sites I like and, although there are tons of sites reviewed and discussed here, I'm now struggling to find something that meets my likes. This place is responsible for introducing me to a number of porn sites that I enjoy immensely. I'm sure there are sites yet undiscovered by me that are reviewed here, but I haven't found one lately. That was the reason I asked about other review sites, particularly foreign films. I wonder how many others are like me in their aversion to most US/European sites, "most" being the operative word.

In conclusion, thanks to all for making this site possible and my comments were in no way meant to denigrate the site. On the contrary.

08-29-14  02:35pm - 188 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - #7
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I tend to agree with all the comments. The one thing that's not on here leaves a big hole for me though and leaves me wondering if I'm missing out on something. And that is sites that are in a foreign language. I really don't understand the policy that prohibits listing of those sites, but I suppose they have good reason. I don't know if I'm missing out on anything as a result, but I wish I could see some honest reviews on such sites. I am not a fan of most US or western european sites and wish I could get a complete picture of what is out there. Other than that, this site serves my needs and the people here are top notch.

08-29-14  04:18am - 189 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - #3
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The thought never crossed my mind that such a question might be against site policy. If it is, I apologize.

My rationale was simply the more info and opinions the better, sort of analogous to one porn site isn't gonna satisfy any or most of us.

08-29-14  04:03am - 189 days When age is drying up your creative juices, who'ya gonna call? (16 Posts) - #3
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Maybe you don't feel as coherent as you did back in the Paleozoic era, but your writing and thoughts are still remarkable and communicated in a fashion Hemingway would even muster a smile. Seriously dude, you still got it!

08-28-14  06:16pm - 189 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Other review sites

I hope this is not TOO politically incorrect.

I was curious if there are other sites similar to this. I've been unable to find any. I think this is a great site; I was just looking for some variety.

08-08-14  02:30am - 210 days Is it overall in Porn's best interest to run tube sites out of Dodge? (12 Posts) - #10
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I thought you finally flipped your lid, haha. But forget about taking it back. What you say on the internet is carved in stone and your heir's heirs will still be answering for your verbiage for millenniums to come. [actually, I thought your post was fascinating, though I sure did have a hard time seeing the analogy to the subject.].
Originally Posted by graymane:


Notice to all who wasted their time trying to make sense of this pile of crap.

Everything you see was never intended to be posted on this thread.
I was in the process of editing a large volume of text .... all while previewing it at the same time.
I became too tired to continue and stopped, intending to finish later. .....
Well its been four days and .....
All of a sudden just now I come on the PU forum after the long absence and I find all this non-sense looking me in the face.

I'm embarrassed to the bone.
For goodness sake please don't judge this as my normal effort.

07-27-14  04:51am - 221 days What's the right amount of "free"? (34 Posts) - #34
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This is a great topic and I've read some great ideas that I would love to see implemented. I hesitate to comment since I'm still fairly new to internet porn... this site sort of woke me up after I sang the praises of a streaming site. I haven't been back to that site since I posted about it.

I'll just say a few things sort of relevant to this discussion. A detailed description of the content and the particulars of the site would be very helpful along with links to reviews of the site. [It's a rare day that I join a site that's not reviewed here.]

Number 2, whatever form the paying sites may take, stop recurring payments. Many non-porn sites do this too, so it can't all be blamed on the porn sites. I think it's no different than highway robbery. Give the customer a choice as to whether he wants automatic billing.

Last, offer better customer service, like a response within 24 hours.

As for the non-paying sites, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would choose these sites unless they can't afford a paying site, a valid reason. Such sites do nothing for me.

And finally, thanks to Rick and staff as well as the membership for opening a world to me that I didn't know existed

07-06-14  06:03pm - 242 days Argentina Triple X (2 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Argentina Triple X

Has anyone tried this site? How is it? I've seen some of their movies elsewhere and I like. How's the video quality? I'm surprised it's not listed or is it, or is it only in Spanish? I speak Spanish so I don't care.

06-03-14  02:59pm - 275 days Download restrictions (10 Posts) - #10
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Originally Posted by ghosty:


Thank you. After it got worse and I got error messages on almost every download link I contacted Epoch today. When I told them I was only able to download one single file since I joined, they told me that it's not their problem. They only do the billing. Instead I should contact the NA support. But after asking if I should contact my bank, lawyer or the appropriate law enforcement agencies in this matter, the person in the support chat agreed to refund my money. Got a confirmation a few minutes later.


Yup, similar thing happened to me. They denied responsibility and to contact the provider. I said I was only making one more call - to my bank. That did the trick.

06-01-14  06:53am - 277 days Download restrictions (10 Posts) - #7
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I don't know why you guys don't try to get your money back. I feel confident you would prevail in a credit card dispute and get it charged back. In my case, I didn't have to go that far. I simply threatened the processor (epoch) to do just that when they balked at refunding my money. As soon as I threatened to call my bank, they agreed to refund my money and did so within an hour.

05-27-14  04:33pm - 282 days Download restrictions (10 Posts) - #3
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Epoch agreed to refund my money after a somewhat heated discussion. The gist of their argument was that it was my responsibility to find out the terms of the site by contacting the provider. What hogwash. I asked the rep what if I were only allowed 1 download per week, would he say the same thing. And he said yes! I think in the end they didn't want to deal with a chargeback since that goes against their record, hence the refund.

Anyway, I don't fault Epoch as much as I do Reality Kings. In my world, to put it nicely, they are scum. -)

I will post a note on the 8th St. page to warn others of the download limitation. Edited on May 27, 2014, 04:36pm

05-26-14  06:29pm - 283 days Credit card porn guidelines in US (20 Posts) - #15
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I'm guessing that some credit card processors don't want to be involved with certain industries or services. I doubt that the reason for this is because they think it's unethical. There's probably a high percentage of chargebacks involved which makes it costly for the processor.

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