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11-15-14  03:19am - 9 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #741
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Originally Posted by pat362:


... I don't know if you are aware but it's quite illegal to shoot someone under the influence of a controlled substance. To shoot porn you have to give consent and that is not really possible when you are by definition not in control of all of them.


I love the way you phrase that. -)

10-24-14  07:21am - 31 days Site recommendations (6 Posts) - #5
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Right, I forgot, the semi-soft site, haha. Too bad there's not more HC on the site. But alas, I joined anyway out of desperation. -)

10-24-14  03:17am - 31 days Site recommendations (6 Posts) - #3
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AW, sorry, what's the site again? Thanks.

10-23-14  04:33pm - 31 days Site recommendations (6 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Site recommendations

Hopefully this will pertain to others here and I'm not being selfish.

I got the jones, I need some fresh videos and am looking for recommendations. I've browsed this site and can't seem to find anything I missed, but it's a huge site and I might have overlooked something. So, help! Here's what I'm looking for, ideally, though I'll settle for something close.

* No pro or few pro actors, natural bodies, minimal or no tatoos, body piercings, etc.

* Non US, preferably Latin or from someplace different, i.e., Vietnam. I am not ruling out American entirely if there's something that meets my criteria. But I like foreign.

* Hardcore BG and BGG but not over the top

* I'm Japanesed out I think... I don't think there's much I haven't seen, at least genre-wise.

* And of course, a somewhat reputable site, or a place I'm not gonna get ripped off. I do care about quality but I don't care about most other things like navigation.

To give you an idea of my likes... 18x, club seventeen, chech av, double view, oye loca, teen mega world, teen core club and yes.

Thanks for any ideas.

10-18-14  07:57am - 37 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #728
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


This thread in my opinion is designed to provide sites to be considered. For now TBP /PU does not set a condition in having reviewed or have been a members at sites submitted
this seems like and official /unofficial way its been done for quite some time. 04-03-08 08:44am - 2388 days ago lol

Of course and email can be dropped at TBP to let them know but this is a nice public way, based on the first post in this thread in 2008 this was not the plan for the thread but it kinda blossomed into it.


Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the mention of sites not listed. I'm always looking for new stuff, at least since I joined here and started downloading. I haven't joined a site for a while cuz I can't seem to find anything interesting that I don't have. So, yes skinnys, keep on posting. I just thought it a bit odd that he didn't join any of these sites. We might have to buy him a membership, haha.

10-17-14  05:26am - 38 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #725
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Originally Posted by skinnys:


... I'm letting other people give reviews & comments about those sites because I don't have the money myself to join those sites and give them my reviews or comments.


Can you explain? There's something that strikes me about that statement being fundamentally wrong. Basically it says, to me anyway, that you search the internet for porn sites, don't join for monetary reasons and hope for them to be reviewed by someone. It's none of my business and if you don't wanna answer, that's fine... what is your motivation?

10-12-14  05:01am - 43 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #718
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Errr... guessing you missed this in the several other places in this thread where I posted it:


I must be blind cuz I still don't see the response, but I'll take your word for it, haha. My review will be posted in a few moments. What a let down!

10-11-14  10:26am - 43 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #715
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Not sure why no response to this, but I did join. It's a new-ish site and that could be the reason it's not listed. If the PU gods decide to list it, and I see no reason not to except that Australian is definitely a foreign language, haha, I'll give my inept review.

10-11-14  01:16am - 44 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #714
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


I came across an Australian-themed site the other day, aussieass.com. I often like to use TBP/PU to gather a bit of intel and get a gist of what a site's about, but these guys aren't listed on either.


+1

10-02-14  03:19am - 53 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #12
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Thanks AW. However, it seems a bit too soft for my tastes, though this is the type of independent site I was referring to. From what I can see, it's all or mostly solo wimmin. I don't want to get into the details on the forum though - would you mind posting a comment or review on their page here? The only reviews are ancient. Thanks again.

10-01-14  03:49pm - 53 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #10
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Nah, I get the drift. It's mostly a matter of poor communication skills on my part. My goal is not necessarily to find a non-English site or review site. Like many of us here who seem to be turned off by the commercialism of porn, fake gonzo tits, ridiculously unrealistic scenes, piercings, tatoos, etc., I'm much happier with smaller independent material. I mistakenly thought that I stood my best chance of finding that stuff on non-english sites. However, there are many sites from Europe and Japan which are in English that fit the bill. While the sites are generally in English, the videos are often not. I've been very happy with many of these sites as well as a couple of foreign language sites I've found. Again, like many of us, I'm simply looking for something outside the box and not your typical San Fernanado valley porn, something I detest.

10-01-14  03:11am - 54 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #8
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Thanks loads for the link.

Unfortunately, a quick perusal shows the same sites you see everywhere else. I was under the mistaken notion that there would be lots of foreign sites listed. But as you intimated , it seems no one has the resources to compare to the US.

09-27-14  06:35pm - 57 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #4
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At least I'm consistent.

09-27-14  04:12pm - 57 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Foreign sites

My understanding is that it's ok to talk about non English sites as long as you don't mention a URL.

Can someone point me in the direction of a place that reviews such sites? How would I go about finding them? Lord knows I've tried.

I am looking for such a site NOT in place of this one, but in conjunction with it.

09-25-14  05:22pm - 59 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #704
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Originally Posted by Khan:


jook, not sure how I can say it any better than I did in my last reply to you on this subject. As a refresher, you can see it here ...
http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...99&showPost=8#_8

I know you wish we'd do non-English sites. I get that. And I won't say we'll never list them. However, for now, it's beyond the scope of services we provide.

Sorry I can't help more.


Maybe if you replied in Japanese I would understand, haha.

Seriously, I don't know the dynamics of running this site or most any site so forgive me if I keep pushing for something that is not possible. And forgive the next question... I'm not trying to give you a difficult time, I just don't know...

Is it allowable to discuss foreign sites in the forum?

09-24-14  01:23am - 61 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #701
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Khan, you probably hate my guts already for pushing for foreign porn to be listed. However, I'll take my chances and comment again. In the case of the site mentioned above, I get it in English with the translator that comes with Chrome and asks if you want a site translated. Everything was clear and understandable. If Chrome can translate the site so easily, I imagine other browsers can do the same. It was also evident that this site is not for me, haha.

09-24-14  01:23am - 61 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #700
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Khan, you probably hate my guts already for pushing for foreign porn to be listed. However, I'll take my chances and comment again. In the case of the site mentioned above, I get it in English with the translator that comes with Chrome and asks if you want a site translated. Everything was clear and understandable. If Chrome can translate the site so easily, I imagine other browsers can do the same. It was also evident that this site is not for me, haha.

09-19-14  02:50pm - 65 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #7
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I feel the same way except when it comes to sites such as this. It's worth the extra $10 or so to me to feel safe in the credit card transaction, know that there is real support and a good quality product. Too bad it's not entirely up my alley, though close. -)

09-19-14  11:45am - 65 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #696
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I'm not a lawyer either so I never offer legal advice. I was simply pointing out to users what might be a troublesome clause in the site's terms of service. If it would hold up in court is anyone's guess but it's something users need to know going in, imo. Bottom line, who wants to join a site that they have to consult a lawyer about?


I agree wholeheartedly. I would never join such a site whether they could enforce the rule or not. I was just making a comment, no reflection on you. On the contrary, it's good to know what these places are putting in their terms since some of us in our haste skip over them, including me. My feeling is that any site that has to threaten potential customers doesn't deserve my business.

09-19-14  05:39am - 66 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #5
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Thanks, but I was looking for something a bit more hardcore. Anything else available in your repertoire?

09-19-14  03:14am - 66 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #3
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I might get 20 lashes for asking this here, but please, a little mercy and since it's being discussed...

I'm inquiring about WOW porn. The review is over a year old, hence my question here. How is it different than 18x or WOW girls? I like the latter 2 sites but find them a little too "soft."

09-19-14  03:03am - 66 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #693
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I'll ask the editors to take a look at that site but yeah, we have quite a few 3D sites listed here.

You can put "3d" in the easy search (right hand menu) and get those listed above or you can use the "Browse Sites" link and use "Hentai" as the niche (put zero for min reviews to list all)

BTW, I would encourage anyone who's considering joining the site suggested to carefully read the terms for the site. Pay close attention to all clauses addressing "liquid damages". For instance, if you do a charge-back the terms say you'll reimburse them. If you don't do it promptly, they'll charge you $100 in damages plus the amount you charged back.


Just browsing this thread and came across this. I wonder what legal or otherwise justification they have for a legitimate or even illegitimate dispute resulting in chargeback. This is a new one on me. Just cuz you put something in the terms doesn't necessarily mean it's legal or enforceable. I cannot see any US or European bank honoring such a term unless it's legal and fraud was committed by the user. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.

09-17-14  04:26am - 68 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #19
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Back to my OP.

I had joined usenet.com on a trial at the same time I posted my message here. After a 3 day trial, it becomes a recurring subscription for $9.99/mo. until you cancel. I decided not to pursue it after the comments made here. Cancellation must be done online. However, I could not get my password to work. I emailed numerous times and spent several hours trying to resolve the problem, but nothing worked. I emailed and told them I only wanted to cancel and asked them to cancel me. They refused!!! They said I had to go online to do it. Duh, here we go, catch 22. When I told them I couldn't get on their site because I couldn't log on, they came up with a crazy fix... delete this file, do a few hula hoops, blah blah. I actually tried their fix and it didn't work. Still, they wouldn't budge and cancel my account.

So, I was charged. I easily got my bank to charge it back. I was finally able to get their phone number from the credit card statement. And of course, it's a generic voice mail and no one returned my call. My bank even tried. My concern is that this is going to become a monthly routine. My bank says they can't do anything. Even if I canceled the card, the charge would follow any new card I got from them. There is no way to stop this except by canceling my card altogether and going to another bank, something I don't want to do.

All you guys who whine about how shady some porn sites are (including me!), they are not the only mine field out there in the internet wilderness. Anyone have a suggestion?

09-12-14  04:32am - 73 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #16
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I feel the opposite. Things were much simpler. Any yo yo could be a computer wiz and I was one back then. I read manuals from cover to cover and became proficient in DOS, Novell, basic programming, lotus 123, etc. now I have a mac that you can only open to upgrade memory and I'm dependent on tech support for minor problems. Once windoze came out, things started to change rapidly and I had no time to keep up.

But there's no looking back. It's amazing how much we've progressed. Who would've thunk that one day we'd be able to watch porn in HD on a 27" screen, haha.

09-11-14  04:46pm - 73 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #14
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Who woulda thunk I'd be playing eeny meeny miney moe in deciding to get an iPhone 6.

09-11-14  04:42pm - 73 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #13
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You're all a bunch of old men living in the past.

Ok, me too, haha. Radio Shack TRS-80 was my first, late 70s.

09-08-14  04:25pm - 76 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #6
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Ok, just asking. I thought usenet might have changed. Thanks for the warnings.

09-07-14  03:50pm - 77 days Usenet (21 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Usenet

I haven't checked out newgroups for at least a few years. I never downloaded porn from there, just music. Can anyone report on the status of porn sites there, like is it worth bothering with?

09-02-14  05:40pm - 82 days I wanna refund! (1 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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I wanna refund!

Yeah, I know, fat chance. I joined the worst site ever last week. [See comments.] Their newest content is from 2011 and the quality is so bad that I find it unwatchable. Anyway, I'm chalking it up to a learning experience. However, I received no response to my requests to cancel. I paid by credit card and one of my requests to cancel was sent by email. Will my bank reverse any possible future charges?

08-30-14  05:22am - 86 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - #9
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Entiendo, haha. I understand now. I forgot that I asked the same question shortly after I joined. Your answer apparently never sunk in until now.

I guess I'm pretty choosy about which sites I like and, although there are tons of sites reviewed and discussed here, I'm now struggling to find something that meets my likes. This place is responsible for introducing me to a number of porn sites that I enjoy immensely. I'm sure there are sites yet undiscovered by me that are reviewed here, but I haven't found one lately. That was the reason I asked about other review sites, particularly foreign films. I wonder how many others are like me in their aversion to most US/European sites, "most" being the operative word.

In conclusion, thanks to all for making this site possible and my comments were in no way meant to denigrate the site. On the contrary.

08-29-14  02:35pm - 86 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - #7
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I tend to agree with all the comments. The one thing that's not on here leaves a big hole for me though and leaves me wondering if I'm missing out on something. And that is sites that are in a foreign language. I really don't understand the policy that prohibits listing of those sites, but I suppose they have good reason. I don't know if I'm missing out on anything as a result, but I wish I could see some honest reviews on such sites. I am not a fan of most US or western european sites and wish I could get a complete picture of what is out there. Other than that, this site serves my needs and the people here are top notch.

08-29-14  04:18am - 87 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - #3
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The thought never crossed my mind that such a question might be against site policy. If it is, I apologize.

My rationale was simply the more info and opinions the better, sort of analogous to one porn site isn't gonna satisfy any or most of us.

08-29-14  04:03am - 87 days When age is drying up your creative juices, who'ya gonna call? (16 Posts) - #3
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Maybe you don't feel as coherent as you did back in the Paleozoic era, but your writing and thoughts are still remarkable and communicated in a fashion Hemingway would even muster a smile. Seriously dude, you still got it!

08-28-14  06:16pm - 87 days Other review sites (17 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Other review sites

I hope this is not TOO politically incorrect.

I was curious if there are other sites similar to this. I've been unable to find any. I think this is a great site; I was just looking for some variety.

08-08-14  02:30am - 108 days Is it overall in Porn's best interest to run tube sites out of Dodge? (11 Posts) - #10
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I thought you finally flipped your lid, haha. But forget about taking it back. What you say on the internet is carved in stone and your heir's heirs will still be answering for your verbiage for millenniums to come. [actually, I thought your post was fascinating, though I sure did have a hard time seeing the analogy to the subject.].
Originally Posted by graymane:


Notice to all who wasted their time trying to make sense of this pile of crap.

Everything you see was never intended to be posted on this thread.
I was in the process of editing a large volume of text .... all while previewing it at the same time.
I became too tired to continue and stopped, intending to finish later. .....
Well its been four days and .....
All of a sudden just now I come on the PU forum after the long absence and I find all this non-sense looking me in the face.

I'm embarrassed to the bone.
For goodness sake please don't judge this as my normal effort.

07-27-14  04:51am - 120 days What's the right amount of "free"? (34 Posts) - #34
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This is a great topic and I've read some great ideas that I would love to see implemented. I hesitate to comment since I'm still fairly new to internet porn... this site sort of woke me up after I sang the praises of a streaming site. I haven't been back to that site since I posted about it.

I'll just say a few things sort of relevant to this discussion. A detailed description of the content and the particulars of the site would be very helpful along with links to reviews of the site. [It's a rare day that I join a site that's not reviewed here.]

Number 2, whatever form the paying sites may take, stop recurring payments. Many non-porn sites do this too, so it can't all be blamed on the porn sites. I think it's no different than highway robbery. Give the customer a choice as to whether he wants automatic billing.

Last, offer better customer service, like a response within 24 hours.

As for the non-paying sites, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would choose these sites unless they can't afford a paying site, a valid reason. Such sites do nothing for me.

And finally, thanks to Rick and staff as well as the membership for opening a world to me that I didn't know existed

07-06-14  06:03pm - 140 days Argentina Triple X (2 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Argentina Triple X

Has anyone tried this site? How is it? I've seen some of their movies elsewhere and I like. How's the video quality? I'm surprised it's not listed or is it, or is it only in Spanish? I speak Spanish so I don't care.

06-03-14  02:59pm - 173 days Download restrictions (10 Posts) - #10
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Originally Posted by ghosty:


Thank you. After it got worse and I got error messages on almost every download link I contacted Epoch today. When I told them I was only able to download one single file since I joined, they told me that it's not their problem. They only do the billing. Instead I should contact the NA support. But after asking if I should contact my bank, lawyer or the appropriate law enforcement agencies in this matter, the person in the support chat agreed to refund my money. Got a confirmation a few minutes later.


Yup, similar thing happened to me. They denied responsibility and to contact the provider. I said I was only making one more call - to my bank. That did the trick.

06-01-14  06:53am - 176 days Download restrictions (10 Posts) - #7
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I don't know why you guys don't try to get your money back. I feel confident you would prevail in a credit card dispute and get it charged back. In my case, I didn't have to go that far. I simply threatened the processor (epoch) to do just that when they balked at refunding my money. As soon as I threatened to call my bank, they agreed to refund my money and did so within an hour.

05-27-14  04:33pm - 180 days Download restrictions (10 Posts) - #3
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Epoch agreed to refund my money after a somewhat heated discussion. The gist of their argument was that it was my responsibility to find out the terms of the site by contacting the provider. What hogwash. I asked the rep what if I were only allowed 1 download per week, would he say the same thing. And he said yes! I think in the end they didn't want to deal with a chargeback since that goes against their record, hence the refund.

Anyway, I don't fault Epoch as much as I do Reality Kings. In my world, to put it nicely, they are scum. -)

I will post a note on the 8th St. page to warn others of the download limitation. Edited on May 27, 2014, 04:36pm

05-26-14  06:29pm - 181 days Credit card porn guidelines in US (20 Posts) - #15
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I'm guessing that some credit card processors don't want to be involved with certain industries or services. I doubt that the reason for this is because they think it's unethical. There's probably a high percentage of chargebacks involved which makes it costly for the processor.

05-26-14  04:17pm - 181 days Download restrictions (10 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Download restrictions

I joined 8th St. Latinas today, a Reality King site. If I had known it was Reality King, I never would have joined. My experience with them in the past has been less than stellar including their site content. [How they got to be #1 is way beyond me.]

In any event, the site is subject to their stingy download limits. After downloading 24 HD files, I got a message I was at my limit and would have to wait 24 hours. I didn't notice anything about such a limitation before I joined and went back to look for one and couldn't find it. I never would have joined knowing this, Reality Kings or not.

Can someone confirm whether or not they reveal this restriction before signing up? If they don't, I'm going to dispute the charge if they don't give me a refund.

Thanks.

05-26-14  04:11pm - 181 days Credit card porn guidelines in US (20 Posts) - #13
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From what I know working with credit card processors and have read about, extreme porn, a subjective term, is no different than any other legal business as far as credit cards are concerned. As long as it's legal, a credit card company can process such charges and has the right to collect payments.

05-18-14  06:58am - 190 days Israeli porn (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Israeli porn

I have been looking for hardcore Israeli videos for a while with no success. I don't see any reviewed here. It's my understanding there's plenty of this around. I just don't know anything about the stuff I google. Anyone?

I found a promising site, http://www.israelipornmovies.com/, but I have no idea about the quality and it seems you can't get pricing until after you give them credit card info. That's a big red flag for me. Does anyone know of this site?

05-13-14  08:09pm - 194 days The wild west (7 Posts) - #7
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Getting back to your bank's unwillingness to go that extra mile in order to pull you out of that mess ..... I'd suggest you find one who'll be in your corner and stay there through the full 15 rounds.
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Thanks, god of wisdom . I told my bank to save their 49 cents on postage and that I'd keep my card as a souvenir, haha. I hate when people act gratuitous and shit, and that's exactly what they did. But gratuitous ends when money comes into the picture; they wanted to charge me to send out a card via 2nd day delivery... $29! Yeah, I know banks are hurting and I should treat them like a charity and help them, but I decided to be Mr. Grinch. The woman actually put me on hold for a few minutes when I asked that they send it overnight gratis using the argument they had more to lose by sending it Pony Express. I was using this credit card to pay for every little purchase to rack up points and in turn they were probably making a fortune on the merchants I was using. They're brainless drones though and there is something to be said for credit unions. But don't get me started, haha.

05-13-14  07:55pm - 194 days The wild west (7 Posts) - #6
jook (14)
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Sorry, it's the Mofos site, specifically Latina Rampage. Billing sites were, as mentioned, SBW (as per the billing site) and the billing site that appears on my statement, pay-dbmem.com. I had no problem with Epoch and I don't believe they are at all shady even though the problem seemed to start when a message that stated that Epoch declined my card. Still, they didn't bat an eyelash when it came to a refund. For the life of me, I don't see how the number listed at the site I was billed at, pay-dbmem.com, can deny any record of me or any responsibility and the bank buys it.

05-13-14  04:28pm - 194 days The wild west (7 Posts) - Original Post - #1
jook (14)
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The wild west

Being somewhat new at paying to download porn, I was really taken aback how crazy things are out there and that normal protections don't seem to exist.

I joined a site that took me to Epoch to sign up. I was immediately declined and brought to a second site, no name that I can recall. I now understand that's not a good sign. The next day, I checked my CC account online and saw I was billed by both sites. The contact info for the 2nd site was no good and I ended up canceling my account with Epoch so as only to be charged once. But I knew the day of reckoning was coming. Nothing worked on this site as far as contacting a real person and I had no way to cancel so as not to incur another charge.

Lo and behold, I got charged by this site a recurring charge today. I went through hell. I don't understand how a processor whose name appears on a credit card statement can say they have no record of my account and get away with it. I was on a conference call with my bank with them and they pointed out another site, SBW (Secure Billing Worldwide.) The first site was pay-dbmem, or something like that.

My bank could only remove the charge. They cannot prevent recurring billing. They said they will send a new card but I;d be responsible for the next 2 recurring bills. Why send a new card then? And how in the world can someone who doesn't exist according to the bank get away with this. Well, they didn't get my money but caused a bit of a nightmare. And my cheapo bank who I've been an A+ customer for years was too cheap to expedite a card to me card via fast mail. I gotta wait 2 weeks.

I know a lot about the credit world being involved with processors at work but I never could've dreamt this scenario possible.

Would anyone care to name some processors to keep away from?

05-11-14  04:52pm - 196 days New credit card scam? (4 Posts) - #5
jook (14)
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Some good advice here, thanks.

As it turned out, the last site I tried today and didn't follow through when my card was supposedly declined, ended up authorizing my card. Granted, it was only $1 (for the trial period), but why in the world would they say it was declined when it wasn't? I was directed to call my bank later on and they did verify that it was authorized. Here we're talking about what I thought was a reputable processor, Seguepay (sp?). Just for the heck of it, I tried to log on - I had on log on info (normally one gets emailed that info) so I just clicked the lost password button. It came back with no record for my email address. At this point the only one I trust is Epoch.

I also suppose that they're banking that I won't bother to dispute $1 when it becomes a charge. Wrong. I know that every chargeback effects a merchant adversely and causes a higher discount rate.

05-11-14  12:48pm - 196 days New credit card scam? (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
jook (14)
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Location: jersey city
New credit card scam?

For the 3rd time, my credit card of choice has been declined by one of those evil websites --- first, it was Mofos, second -- I forgot, and just now, 18xgirls. They were all by well known processors, i.e., Epoch, Segpay and I forget the other one. I never had a problem with my credit card up until now and still don't have a problem in the REAL world. After being declined, I was immediately taken to a second site with a less known processor, at least lesser known to me, i.e., pay-dbmem, I forget (my favorite) and Zombaio.

The first time it happened, I gave my credit info again to the second site, pay-dbmem. As it turned out, I was charged twice, both by Epoch and db-mem. I tried to cancel with db-mem and, after spending 15 minutes trying to do so with no success, canceled easily with Epoch. [When I called them, they said they had no record of a charge and denied it was the same company even though I called the number on their website.] Same scenario on the the second site. The kick is, I was charged the recurring charge by this secondary processor in both cases because I could not cancel. After all, you can't cancel an account that doesn't exist, which is basically what I was told. When I was confronted with the same scenario on the 3rd site, I decided to use my brain and opt out and not join. I might have to quit porn forever if this keeps going on.

I need to call my bank tomorrow to dispute, but I really don't wanna go through this hassle. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

04-26-14  04:14pm - 211 days Oxygen Retreat (16 Posts) - #12
jook (14)
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Location: jersey city
I've been to the DR a number of times and spent several weeks there last summer. Prostitution is legal, though not pimping. It is almost a way of life there out of necessity - decent paying jobs are hard to come by. As for sex traffic, I highly doubt it. There's enough home grown putas. safeguards against STDs is no different than anywhere else. There's really no need to go to a sex resort and blow a wad of dough. But if that's your thing, there are many other reasonably priced choices. I think oxygen is in punta Cana, tourist central and very pricey.

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