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11-21-14  06:19am - 2 days The Way You Get Internet Porn is About to Change (55 Posts) - #56
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


Let's hope it doesn't come to that. AW has already been through harder times than most sites could survive, with the prosecution in Australia, yet you walked away still standing. I lost my original AW stuff in a hard drive crash years ago, and I would be kicking myself to this day if you guys had not hung in there, and I could not rebuild my AW collection.


Don't worry. Come what may, we're here to stay

11-20-14  07:30am - 3 days I'll be back (12 Posts) - #9
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See ya Cybertoad, take care.

11-18-14  07:50am - 5 days The Way You Get Internet Porn is About to Change (55 Posts) - #54
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


You make some valid points Cybertoad that I cannot argue with. Giving the FCC more regulatory authority could play out to be as bad as giving the ISP's free reign. There is no easy solution to this issue. Here's a "public service announcement" from the porn industry on the topic:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/9873757...-star-net-neutrality


The difference between giving the FCC and the ISPs free reign over the internet is that the FCC has public oversight. Not saying public institutions can't be hijacked or abused; just that there are systems in place to prevent that, mandated transparency to see it happening, and recourse for citizens if it does happen. If the ISPs are in charge, it all happens behind closed doors, without public input, in the service of their balance sheet instead of common interest.

There is a third way, besides letting bureaucrats and plutocrats regulate the internet, a way that already effects an influence on internet policy just by it's presence (despite being entirely outside established power structures). The way will likely present itself prominently if either the bureaucrats or plutocrats are successful in seizing the internet, and go too far: internet anarchy, the unregulated world wide web. If the powers that be close the vice too hard on the internet, they will just squeeze data and people into the darknet. Right now it's a fringe, niche thing, because it's not essential. But if the internet was changed to a glorified cable tv service, with curated channels, you bet I'd be on the darknet. The networks are in place, you can't unmake the internet, unliberate information. It's too late for that.

11-18-14  07:40am - 5 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #19
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


As I mentioned, I do not see Google doing anything they do not see in their own best interest. One think Google and the alike M$ etc. have never ever done was develop products based on actual needs. Google as an example is brilliant as nearly every single service you use Youtube, Chrome, Picassa, Gmail,
all are free and attach you at the hip to do so with the place they can change the rules anytime and begin charging you if they so felt the desire.

The issues are very clear if you begin one censor, it wont work they way people want and it wont. Then the government will step in and regulate it,and pass laws that can be accessed.

Liberal supporters of Obama right now are working on creating throttles for the internet in the limiting of access for so called radical groups,firearms,anti-government, and even religious. I know some of you get a big chubby thinking they would end firearms and limit access on the net. Well as I have said before any idiot that thinks taking away and limiting a legal right wont lead to other rights being removed is a fool.
Because human history shows thats exactly how rights are removed.

Google should do the right think and end illegal searched at the least do not allow certain proven torrent sites to show up. Unless like the Liberal plan to limit internet rights. Piracy is illegal and should be dealt with. I think anyone would love a life supply of free porn but Google is hurting businesses that run legal all in the name of $$$ it appears. Maybe they can prove everyone wrong by stepping up and doing whats right.


I don't know that there is a serious threat posed to the internet by liberals. Currently the biggest and most real threat to the internet is posed by right wing media corporations and ISPs, who want to eliminate net neutrality such as to turn the internet into a tiered, curated service controlled in the service of their bottom line. They basically want to turn the internet into cable tv. The difference between these guys, and extreme religious and political whackjobs from across the spectrum (who want to censor stuff they don't agree with), is that these industrial giants have the lobbyists, political connections, and megabucks to make their vision a reality.

Having the FCC reclassify the internet as a common carrier, a utility (like telephones), would reflect the actual reality of the situation (the internet is in practice a utility, these days), and protect US consumers from predatory oligopolies double-dipping (by charging content creators and end users for the same thing) and from shaping the internet into a giant subscription service to their business.

If the FCC wanted to impose an internet tax, then it ought to be guaranteed to every citizen, like water.

11-14-14  02:49am - 9 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #14
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Bing and Yahoo are the biggest competitors in the mainstream market. Baidu and Yandex are bigger than Google in China and Russia respectively. Duckduckgo is a privacy-oriented search engine that has a cult following amongst google-skeptics and

Bing's video search is widely regard as superior than Google's particularly for porn. By specialising on the specific cultural/linguistic demographics, Baidu and Yandex become better than Google for certain people. By focussing on something some people care a lot about (privacy) Duckduckgo has carved itself a niche that Google can't really move in on.

As an advertiser, Google 'has the balls' of online companies only as much as Facebook does. Also, their pricing model for adwords is very forward-thinking and reasonable, I think. It is definitely a well designed cash machine, but only because it offers a great service at a compelling price for advertisers, and unobtrusive, often-relevant ads for users.

11-14-14  02:30am - 9 days The Way You Get Internet Porn is About to Change (55 Posts) - #49
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I'm more optimistic for the fate of American internet users. Europe has already been leading the way for years with respect to legislating net neutrality, and the notion of the internet as a utility (or even a basic civil right, like education and free speech, in some places). Plus Obama recently spoke in favour of net neutrality, which whilst not at all binding, sets the tone of the conversation within the US considerably.

Based on that, I think the FCC is going to come around to presidential and global consensus, regardless of industry pressure. Even if it doesn't, it's not all bad news; if the FCC defies public will, presidential opinion, and global trends to protect Comcast and Verizon, the corruption will be evident, and the outrage widespread. Most likely a move like that would instigate or fuel calls for change.

11-13-14  03:33am - 10 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #11
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I'd say Google's done a fine job of integrating an inoffensive ad revenue without clutter and spam, and whilst preserving the relevance and integrity of results. Sites do spend an inordinate amount of money and time trying to 'beat' the Google ranking algorithms, something that id decreasingly effective (it's a constant race between shady SEO techniques, and google algorithm updates). Google does give free and open advice on how to best optimise your site, however- nothing shady, just tips like 'don't keyword stuff', 'use keywords in URLs', 'give more important words prominence with heading tags', etc.

The search engine market is the opposite of a monopoly. When googled entered it, it was saturated. They had a vastly superior product, and rose to the top of this saturated market (which remains saturated to this day). There are countless competitors to google in every field they engage in- their dominance of the market isn't monopolistic, though, it's competitive.

11-12-14  02:54am - 11 days "Porn stars demand Google's help to combat piracy" (19 Posts) - #9
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Originally Posted by thirstyfish:


Google and other search engines are designed to provide people with the results they are searching for. Search engines are not designed to help industries whose payment models are suffering.

Yeah, I'd agree with this. The day Google becomes a tool to subsidise and promote an ailing industry model is the day Google stops being a search engine.

I think the responsibility falls upon the industry to adapt to the internet, not for the internet to adapt to the industry. That's understandably a hard pill to swallow for many, because the way forward isn't clear, nor is it clear if they'll ever again have billionaire producers and superstars like they did when they held the bottleneck of media.

11-12-14  02:44am - 11 days Veteran's Day (2 Posts) - #3
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Also Remembrance Day in Australia, and also not a public holiday. Also, it's more focused on WWI and WWII than veterans in general. Like, the veterans show up, but more to honour the fallen, than to be honoured. We don't really do the whole 'support the troops' thing like America does.

Same deal with our other military themed holiday (ANZAC day)- specifically about WWI, and in fact commemorates a crushing military defeat we suffered at the hands of the Turks (at Gallipoli). Almost 60,000 Australians and New Zealanders (and twice that number of Tommies) died at Gallipoli, by far the biggest loss for our comparatively small countries, mostly wasted on hopeless cliff assaults and bayonet charges across no man's land, from trench to trench, against machine gun fortifications.

The general opinion in Australia is that the Turks were just defending their home, and that a devastating number of Australians died in vain at the behest of the British Empire. It is cited by many as the 'true' birth of Australian identity, and the source of a cynicism towards war and pro-war nationalism in Australian culture (which was what sent a lot of those soldiers to their death). For us, veterans are more often cast as victims of an injustice, than heroes to be thanked.

11-07-14  08:36am - 16 days Do you think ... ? (9 Posts) - #8
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I doubt the election is going to impact much at all, to be honest. With a first-past-the-post/two-party-system as intractable as the one in the US, and fixed corporate lobbyists regardless of who's in office, the chance for drastic change (positive or negative) is pretty slim.

I predict zero meaningful changes.

11-06-14  05:09am - 17 days Why is the Fame cancel page so hard to use? (4 Posts) - #4
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That's an awful, convoluted process. It doesn't even make sense, if you ask me. While you might successfully scam some folks with some unwanted rebills, you're also going to get way more chargebacks, which is going to either increase the rates you pay the bank for your merchant account, or risk the account itself.

Additionally, you lose out on repeat business- a cost that magnifies over time. Many of our customer have been coming and going for years, some for more than a decade. I don't doubt that if we obfuscated the cancellation process, many of these return members would have never returned.

Making customers jump through hoops to manage their accounts is a dodgy, shortsighted strategy.

10-30-14  08:04am - 24 days RIP Jack Bruce (4 Posts) - #4
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Originally Posted by Drooler:

Surely she couldn't have "asked for it."


No more than Muhammed Ali is asking to get punched in the face.

"He can't just spend his life fighting people in the ring and not expect any consequences. He has profited off the glorification of violence in society. He's clearly partly to blame when people come up to him in the street and want to fight; he's made a living off encouraging and simulating that. I'm not saying it's right for an old man to get hurt, just that he brought it on himself if it happens. Especially if he's wearing shorts."

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The market is saturated with models, shooters, studios, affiliates, and publishers. It's a pretty saturated market all around; so the competition is going to be fierce no matter how you step into it. That it's hopeless to start, though, or that no new professionals are successfully entering the industry.

At careers.abbywinters.com we've got a posting for contract shooters; you'd be surprised how few serious applicants we get (granted we require exclusivity, albeit whilst paying higher rates). While it's true there's a million guys with good cameras and hot girlfriends around, their professionalism is often below par, and their skills aren't quite as good as they think they are. We provide (required) training in our style and technical standards via learn.abbywinters.com, and applicants flat out refuse to do it- they think they're above it.

With dedication, professionalism, and skill, I'd say it's very realistic to aspire to making one's way as a shooter (or most things, really). If we want to look at the 'easiest' job to get in adult, once you have the skills, then that would have to be web developer. Getting the skills is the trick, though.

10-29-14  03:36am - 25 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #43
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


My goal would be to do memorable shoots with attractive models and make my priorities top technical quality as well as composition. Beyond that, the rest is details.

My recommendation would be to look into becoming a freelance shooter. You'll need equipment and skills, but you'll have discretion, creative control, and the chance to build a reputation for excellent content.

Stefan Soell is an example of a well known photographer who contributes scenes to femjoy. Petter Hegre is a photographer who started his own site (with a focus on high quality erotic photography).

10-28-14  06:49am - 26 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #31
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:

...I wish there were more of these with current or recently former performers, instead of the litany of melodramatic horror stories of people who turned against the industry...


A friend of mine, not a model but an escort, calls this 'tragedy porn'. Mainstream conservative moralists get off on the tragedy wicked people have to endure, under the guise of caring and empathising. She's a successful, educated, happy, healthy, and professional escort; in her line of work there are quite a few social workers and charities on patrol looking out for 'at risk' girls (who are definitely there, and have real problems). These people have all the time in the world to talk about abusive pimp boyfriends, deadbeat dads, lost faith, and drug abuse- but the second they meet a well adjusted, happy, and successful sex worker, they just shut down to the point of hostility.

Clear headed, professional adult work is antithetical to the moralist narrative they peddle. That's why there's not more of these cool interviews of which you speak.

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TVFR raises a good point. A pretty solid shot at making porn, for a profit, on the downlow, would be to become a contract shooter for an established site. The obstacles to that would be:

(a) Getting all the required equipment.
(b) Getting good enough at it to meet professional standards.
(c) Recruiting models.
(d) Finding buyers for shoots you make.

10-24-14  03:10am - 30 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #732
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My 2 cents: it's up to the industry to come up with a business model compatible with the harsh realities of the internet. Relying on the noble spirit of the public to do the right thing, or fighting the nature of the internet itself, isn't a sustainable strategy.

Most likely we'll see a transition away from traditional studio paysites, into the next, more-viable business model. Just like the shift from magazines to VCR, to DVD, to online paysites.

10-24-14  03:04am - 30 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #35
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You can do it with lower overheads if you want to give up independence and moneymaking potential. Like having an nsfw tumblr, for instance; plenty of folks build quite a fandom by posting quality amateur content there, and can subsequently convert a bit of that to some pocket money with the right auxiliaries.

Nothing like big porn money, though.

10-24-14  03:01am - 30 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #24
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Again the correct term is was a big deal. Stoya is part of a very small group of performers who was able to sign a long term contract with Digital Playground but unlike most of their other performers. She was a lot more open to doing the more hardcore types of porn. It didn't hurt that she was not your proto blonde, large breasted girl but a waif like ivory skinned with deep dark hair girl. Sadly like most post-contract performers. She didn't do a whole lot once her contract came due. These days I think she lives on the East Coast and does non-porn related stuff.


My favourite thing about her was how she rocked the 'sexy nerd' thing; she was damn clever, articulate, and had a lot of interesting and well developed opinions on a lot of topics. Reminds me of the kind of girls I normally get involved with.

10-24-14  02:57am - 30 days Site recommendations (6 Posts) - #2
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I know you've said we're a little too softcore before, but we do have 40-odd Girl-Boy scenes between real-life couples (and release one every month), as well as hundreds of hardcore girl-girl scenes. Most of all, we check every one of the other boxes you listed.

Just sayin...

10-23-14  02:55am - 31 days Who's the current porn 'It' girl? (31 Posts) - #19
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Not sure if it's just my perspective, or if she's actually prominent in the mainstream, but Stoya seems to be a bit of a big deal.

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All good points, but that's why I included the caveat 'if money's not the focus'. If you're interested in self-publishing some porn for the love of it (or anything, for that matter), it's never been easier to do - everything from hosting, to web design, to payment processing has been highly developed into free-or-cheap uncomplicated prepackaged services.

If you want to launch a competitive, profit-orientated site, it's never been harder. The market is saturated with big players, innumerable small fish, free promotional content, and pirated content. I wouldn't recommend it as a commercial venture, but mean to say that it's very achievable as a passion project.

10-23-14  02:40am - 31 days Anyone have experience with devices that allow you to play files on a TV? (25 Posts) - #25
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I've gotta say you can't beat an HDMI cable with a wireless keyboard and mouse. All three cost peanuts, and you eliminate all the headache of moving files between devices, format issues, and DRM- you're literally just using your TV as your computer monitor.

Not an option if your TV doesn't take HDMI, but if your TV doesn't take HDMI it's not likely to look much better than your computer screen anyway.

If your computer is too far away from your TV, you could use a laptop. Alternately, if you're feeling like a fun DIY project, you could make your own media device using a raspberry pi (tiny, credit-card-sized, barebones computer that goes for $35)

10-22-14  05:39am - 32 days Keeping involvement in porn quiet (47 Posts) - #29
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The proliferation of cheap and free out of the box solutions, and skilled labour. In the past, to make a paysite you had to make it, from scratch. Content management systems, download servers, user account management, integration with a third party biller. Most likely you'd need the help of some experts, and they weren't as plentiful back then (read: expensive).

Nowadays there's a well documented API, and open source software package (with free community support), a rentable CDN, affordable experts available on contract from vetted and accountable agencies, and more.

While this makes starting a site even with little-to-no capital, knowledge, or time is easier than before - it also means lots of people have done it (meaning it's not the booming racket it once was, the days of overnight millionaire porn king pins are gone). The proliferation of micro-sites is insane, because the overheads are negligible. It's not unusual for a relatively no-name model to have her own site, they're not in the big bucks, and they typically don't come from a web development background.

Still, with persistence, it's still very achievable to pull together a small site, focussed on a very specific niche, that runs at a modest profit (the overheads are just so low).

The other option is to forget the hard slog to establish and sustain a small site, and just contribute content on a pre-existing platform. There are a number of sites that essentially offer a no-expertise required paysite in a box; you just put your content up and they handle the rest (taking a cut, of course). Live cam sites aren't too far from this either- they've built the streaming porn infrastructure, and traffic flow, you just get in front of a camera and get naked.

Then there's stuff like tumblr, and the nsfw realms of social media, where you can give content away in return for attention and perhaps fandom. Lots of people from the last group do this to build a following, which they then try to direct to their camshows, panty store, or hosted paysite to monetise. Lots of people just post homemade adult content on social media sites for fun, without setting out to make a buck out of it (nothing wrong with that either). That final option is by far the quickest and easiest way to publish some online porn, if money isn't a priority.

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On the positive side, it's never been easier to start your own site. That's a detriment when it comes to the immediate profitability, but if money's not the primary focus, it's more than realistic to aim for creating great content and building a following.

In fact, you may consider using a platform like tumblr, possibly in tandem with a micro-paysite to monetise any hardcore fanbase you might build.

10-16-14  04:50am - 38 days Sites Not Listed On "The Best Porn" (720 Posts) - #721
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Thanks for adding Khan, and for the review Jook!

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Originally Posted by Parsnip:


Those rates quoted above for Kink seem high to me. I guess even today with the dead porn market they are so brutal and violent that they have to pay more.

10 years ago the going rate was $800 for a single straight scene, $1200 including anal. Now you would be lucky to get 1/3 of that.

The girls in Eastern Europe have it worse. They get paid 300 euros ($350) for a nominal half day shoot - 4 hours shooting however long it takes to set up. For that they have to take everything thrown at them, with a queue of guys with jacked-up boners doing scene after scene, 20-30 minutes to shoot each. If the pain gets too bad they just have to stick an anaesthetic in their ass and carry on - no finish, no pay.

Many porn consumers are mysoginists and like it that way. Many more have so little emotional intelligence that they have convinced themselves that the fixed grin on the girl's face as she takes the third cock up her ass means she is enjoying it. She isn't. Most of the time, however desperate they are, one shoot is enough.

As I said before, my wife's sister did porn for 2 weeks, several years ago, and she is still paying for it. Really, it isn't a business to get into.


While I don't doubt that the worst examples exceed this dreary account, it's not at all the standard. Sites like ATK, Met Art, and Hegre-Art pay Eastern European models no less than Western European models, and treat them fine (they are all solo erotica sites, however). The preference for Eastern European models on a lot of sites arises because the fixed rate for a scene is more attractive in Eastern European countries (€500 goes a lot further in Bucharest than it does in London). Additionally, I've heard photographers saying Eastern European models are easier to work with; punctual, professional, and so on. Finally, for some reason, they're more often of the body type glamour sites favour (slender and delicate).

We don't shoot a lot of Eastern European models at abbywinters.com (because we're not in Eastern Europe and all of our content is exclusive and shot in-house). That said, Eastern European models have on occasion come to us; we paid them the same rate we would any other model, and were as respectful as usual.

As for rates, we can't disclose specifics, but out models earn hundreds of Euros per shoot (how many hundreds depends on how explicit the shoot is). Ordinarily models who shoot for us do a string of shoots all in one go over the course of a week or two; providing they are up for girl-girl and/or girl-boy, they might walk away with a couple of grand. As an amateur site, though, we don't have ongoing 'porn-stars' on the site; for most of our models, appearing on our site is a short walk on the wild side with a tidy sum for something fun.

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Hrm, you've got competing priorities here. The more successful you are producing porn, the more likely it will be that your alter ego will be stumbled upon by someone you know.

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I came across an Australian-themed site the other day, aussieass.com. I often like to use TBP/PU to gather a bit of intel and get a gist of what a site's about, but these guys aren't listed on either.

10-09-14  08:04am - 45 days Do they have a list of site have chinese traffic? (9 Posts) - #9
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lol, good luck mate. Most serious paysites don't sell ad-space (it shits of the members, who rightly feel that by paying they needn't have to deal with ads). Not sure about Brazzers specifically, but as one of the biggest studios out there, if the do sell adspace it's not going to be cheap.

Perhaps GFY would be a better place for this line of questioning? It's an affiliate discussion board, just google 'GFY affiliates' and you should find it.

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I'd love to visit USA in person to experience these freedoms, but I'm a little intimidated by the closed borders, invasive TSA, and the fact that it has the world's second highest incarceration rate (ahead of Russia, China, Iran, all of the Middle East, and all of Africa! My home country isn't even in the top 100).

But you're right, this isn't the place. I'd like to reply on-topic, but in both my home country and the country I'm living in right now, prostitution is legalised and regulated. So again, I'm unable to relate due to not being a free American.

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Well I'm not American, but I must disagree, Cybertoad. The American Constitution is a landmark document in the history of democracy and political rights, but it's not inviolable. After all, they are called 'amendments' - 'changes' of which many have been applied, and will continue to get applied. There is a rigorously controlled system to amend the constitution, and that is how all the amendments got there in the first place. For instance, the 13th amendment was added to the constitution to abolish slavery, after the civil war. The most recent amendment was added in 1992. 10 amemndments were added in the last 100 years, of which one was responsible for prohibition (and was later repealed).

My point is that in the American system of government, the constitution isn't a holy document of unbreakable commandments. It is normal and acceptable for amendments to get added and repealed, and sensible systems govern that process.

More to the point, repealing or elaborating upon the second amendment wouldn't threaten the first amendment any more than any of the other many changes to the constitution did. They are entirely separate amendments about unrelated topics.

Finally, it's my understanding that the mainstream anti-gun position in the US is not actually focussed on repealing the second amendment so much as enforcing it (specifically, the part about only have the right to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia).

10-03-14  05:00am - 51 days The Way You Get Internet Porn is About to Change (55 Posts) - #40
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It's pretty simple, I think; if the FCC doesn't pull their finger out and reclassify the internet as a common carrier, then Verizon TWC and Comcast will eventually succeed in eliminating net neutrality. This will turn the internet into a glorified cable service.

In America.

Currently, America is undoubtedly the hub of the internet. If net neutrality crumbles there, the internet will still be 'free' everywhere else, and we'll just see a migration of focus, probably to the EU (which already boasts faster average speeds and superior infrastructure anyway). Additionally, the multilayered regulatory environment of the EU makes it exceptionally harder for plutocrats to hijack.

10-02-14  02:53am - 52 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #11
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Check out ishotmyself.com, they're a great 'indy' site, and friends of ours.

10-01-14  02:29am - 53 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #7
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Cheers for that, Khan; I had no idea.

Even despite this French review site, I'm dubious as to whether there are going to be many significant sites that offer exclusive content, not to the US market. It'd just be a weird business choice; the US market is huge and accessible. The language barrier doesn't explain it, either. English is just so widespread, particularly amongst web developers and coders (because programming languages and internet standards sort of lean on English as an assumed basis).

09-30-14  09:15am - 54 days Foreign sites (14 Posts) - #5
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I know of a french porn review site, not sure if linking to it is kosher, howerver. Shoot us an email at abby@abbywinters.com and I'll shoot you back a link.

09-26-14  05:07am - 58 days What was your favorite scene or porn star you watched today ? (7 Posts) - #8
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Just let me seize on this moment to deliver a belated, but all-important collection of fact that I feel bears our keen attention, appreciation, and certainly generous recognition of the out-pouring good fortunate bestowed upon PU website, and particularly our beloved forum.......
And for those who haven't gathered, The subject of whom I'm pleased to address associated with the above honors is non-other than our AWpress.
Based on my personal observation ....
The participants/owners behind this name have been a cornucopia of vital, educational and informative data from inside the industry as well as their personal touch on addressing our porn related issues.
A hardy bow and tip of the hat to you, AWpress for your generosity and presence to our close nit community.

Thanks for the kind words, Graymane; that's high praise coming from such a well regarded and longstanding community member.

09-26-14  05:03am - 58 days The PU forum is now emoji-powered! (13 Posts) - #4
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👌 Nice.

09-24-14  04:49am - 60 days What was your favorite scene or porn star you watched today ? (7 Posts) - #2
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Hrm, well by virtue of working at a porn studio, most of the porn I see hasn't been released yet. That said, I did see a great girl-boy scene that just got released today. Gisela and Henk are a real life couple, so their scene was very sweet and playful- lots of kisses and smiles.

09-24-14  04:45am - 60 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #12
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You said it, Cybertoad, the economic pinch squeezes especially hard on luxuries. While we're not barnstorming like we used to, we're still going strong- we'll be waiting for you at the other side!

Back to OP- other sites that do good girl-girl and solo content; femjoy.com/joymii.com/nutabu.com. All sister sites, slightly different flavours, all great. Femjoy is very softcore solo erotic photography, joymii is more porny and hardcore (and features girl-girl and girl-boy), nutabu is... hard to describe- globetrotting gonzo smut, I guess.

09-23-14  02:30am - 61 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #10
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Thanks for the feedback on price guys. Having a hefty pricetag like ours does put us above the price point of some potential customers, but there is a practical element to it as well - we shoot 100% exclusive content, in-house; we train all of our own shooters, prospect our own genuine amateur models (i.e. no casting agencies), shoot our own scenes, and edit them in house. In the traditional sense, we're a 'studio'. A lot of the bigger sites outsource all of that; the models, the shooters, the editors, even premade imagesets and videos are often bought a budget prices from 3rd party contractors. This is cost effective, but it does result in unreliable quality, and a 'samey' flavour that comes with a loss of creative control.

The proposition of competing with aggregator sites like these on the basis of price is a hopeless one. If we try that with our current model, we'd just fail. The alternative would be to become more like them, drop member rates, and loosen up on the exclusivity and creative control to hire external contractors (not necessarily an awful idea). We weighed it up (and took in a lot of feedback), and decided to go the other way- specialise in our niche, focus on making great content in our own style, and essentially be a costlier premium 'boutique' studio site. It doesn't do us favours as far as capturing the mass market (we'll leave that to Brazzers), but we are a hit with afficionados of the niches to which we cater.

09-19-14  05:28am - 65 days 18 only girls X Wow Girls (12 Posts) - #4
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If it's lesbian and solo girl stuff you like, you might be a fan of our site. The flavour is a little different; mostly very youthful and happy models, but no make-up, airbrushing, or fake-ness.

Here's our review on TBP.

09-17-14  06:54am - 67 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #21
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Grr. Predatory billing practices like that suck.

09-12-14  04:06am - 72 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #15
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I don't look back on this era with too much nostalgia, but one thing that I think we cold really bring back is how computing came with a basic level of DIY programming and even electronics. I think it'd be good to bring that stuff into the basic high school curriculum (e.g. Ok guys, here's a raspberry pi each; attach these LEDs to it, and write a program to control how they flash).

09-11-14  09:58am - 73 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #11
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My first computer was an Amstrad; the thing took cassette tapes, and it's OS was a console that only accepted commands in BASIC. If you wanted to play a game, and you didn't have the cassette, then you literally had to type out the source code in BASIC.

Classic.

09-09-14  10:18am - 75 days Usenet (21 Posts) - #7
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Usenet, lol.

09-04-14  07:36am - 80 days When age is drying up your creative juices, who'ya gonna call? (16 Posts) - #17
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Because he's the hero Pornusers deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Mod.

09-04-14  07:30am - 80 days the danger of cloud based systems (19 Posts) - #12
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Originally Posted by biker:


I finally bought a new computer game after ten years of playing my favorites and wanting something new. To my surprise, I have to be part of a client server called Steam. Now any member can see everything I do with the game. How well I play and how often.

We live in a strange new world, now that we have the internet. You give up some of your privacy the minute you enter this vast universe. Friends and family want me to join one of those social networks, but your not just sending your thoughts to a few friends, but to the whole world. That is not what I want. I like my life kept private. Might as well live in a glass house.


Steam raises a good counterpoint; this is a non-invasive, generally ethical piece of cloud software (I'd say). By that, I mean, they don't have misleading or predatory terms and practises, and don't use the software as a bait and switch to load up your computer with DRM and malware (like aforementioned real player). Rather, it is a pretty straight forward, what-you-see-is-what-you-get cloud games market - they let you buy games, hosting your user profile in the cloud. The main benefit of that is having your games collection bought and paid for, stored online- on a different computer you can log in as yourself, and have access to your games and save files. Pretty cool. The downside, for some, is that you play in a public space.

That said, having a public profile on a service like steam is not too different from eating at a cafe in town. Everyone can see you, what you ordered, what you eat, what you don't eat, and how fast you eat it. Nobody cares, though, because there are millions of people eating in public every day, and it's just not remarkable. So it is with steam; why should a stranger care to view your profile amongst millions? Why should you care that they might? What about someone you know? How would they find your profile?

This returns me to the idea that in the internet age, privacy only exists when you actively create it. In the case of a steam example, you would want to register an account from a unique email address, and keep it's details hidden (refuge in anonymity). Or, buy your games off good old games (gog.com) which is not 'in the cloud'.

The internet is becoming more and more like the mall, and less like the wild west. This isn't all bad; it's more convenient and bountiful, and the culture is a little more civil. Unlike the mall, though, it's still totally acceptable for you to walk around in a balaclava, if that's what you want to do.

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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


That would be a lot of testing, especially given how often some performers could be shooting, though it would be better than nothing, and certainly better than the current monthly testing regimen. But it still wouldn't be foolproof. "False positives," like the one in this recent moratorium, only make people stop shooting and take a few extra, if temporary, precautions.

"False negatives," on the other hand, could lead to a lethal sense of good health, since the window period for enough HIV antibodies and antigens to develop could be too long for a test to detect them. And it's why AIDS/HIV has become a global pandemic; though ultimately deadly, it works so slowly that it allows for a lot of transmission before it can even be detected with a test, much less show symptoms.

Sadly, the bottom line is no matter how risky porn will be for its performers health-wise it will always be in enough demand to justify those risks. And while I enjoy the occasional boy-girl scene but would be fine with my favorite performers doing only solo or girl-girl (though even those are still risky, especially given how hardcore they have progressed in recent years), I know this just isn't a workable reality for most performers.

It's going to take a cultural change within the industry; primarily to step away from unprotected, or possibly all, "outside work," whether it's called escorting or "private scenes." And maybe to even expect a certain amount of monogamy in their private sexual lives generally, especially if they wish to work more than a few months and avoid the risk of shortening their lives as well.

Maybe I'm asking too much, but I really hope not.

You make a fine point on the risk of false negatives. Overall it's a real catch 22.

I will note, though, that models' private sex lives are a far greater risk than potential escorting work. Professional escorts, where such work is legal, tend to be very health conscious (their livelihood depends on it, after all). Much more so than those partaking in casual sex/pickups/dating, which is where I think the real risk lies.

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That is possibly the most polite way I've heard someone describe the escorting most of the performers now do on a regular basis. I know that 30 years ago performers did the same thing but life was very different than it is today and the total number of performer was quite small when compared to today. Not to mention that everyone knew each other so there was a certain amount of respect among the talent and the various companies that I don't believe exist today.
That wasn't my intended implicationl I meant their private sex lives. I can't speak for the industry as a whole, but for the models on our site, the overwhelming majority don't do any escorting, or stripping. Granted we're an amateur site. Really, though, these three different kinds of sex work offer vastly different things that generally appeal to different people with different priorities.

Porn - pays well, infrequent work, lots of control/safety, prearranged partners and posing levels, very public/indiscreet.

Escorting - pays very well, frequent work, no prior knowledge of partners or sex acts, very discreet.

Stripping - pays ok, frequent work, no sex required, somewhat discreet, reasonably controlled/safe.

Speaking in huge generalisations here, but overlaps aren't as common as one might expect, and if anything there's often a bit of attitude between these different varieties of sex work (it's easy for each type to look down upon the other two).

Originally Posted by pat362:

Not sure if this is imposed but it was strongly advised that talent be tested every two weeks and I believe cost is about 185$ for the works. Seeing as some test have a 7 to 10 day period to be truly accurate than a two week test is more an illusion than a reality.
I'm not familiar with the industry-wide standards. Our models are considered 'in test' for 4 weeks after the test, but they generally only shoot once or twice, shortly after getting tested. We don't have 'full timers', so to speak.



Originally Posted by pat362:

I don't believe that current technology allows for a truly accurate same day test and therefore doing that will be a waste of money. I believe forcing studios to pay for the test was one of the things AB1576 was going to accomplish but since the industry didn't want it than the performer is still the one fronting the bill. Good luck getting the government to pay for a test when the industry doesn't want government involvement in the first place.
Well, my suggestion was more that the government just offer free testing for everyone, and that the industry could then use that service.

Originally Posted by pat362:

Not sure what the tax laws are in the States but unless studios can deduct the cost of the test from their income taxes than even the big guys would be in serious trouble. In fact the bigger studios would be in bigger trouble if only because they shoot a lot more porn and hire a lot more performers.
Ah yep, good point. Even with tax deduction, it does increase the overheads, reducing overall liquidiy- I'm no bean counter, though.

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