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07-08-14  07:24am - 106 days Is Porn Losing Its sparkle or Do You Think Its Great These Days (32 Posts) - #15
Marphel (0)
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Why am I dissatisfied with todays porn?

Too much attention is given to the male performers and little or no attention to the females.

This is my experience, maybe you can relate.

I'm on a website and see an update featuring one of my favorite models/actresses or I see an update with an attractive newbie and I get really excited. That excitement quickly turns to disappointment and frustration once I begin viewing the video. Why?

Because the 25 minute video has too many close-ups of the MALES face and his facial expressions. Lingering and extended views of his ass-crack, nut sack, hands and other body parts. Meanwhile the female performer (the one you so desperately wanted to see) is totally ignored by the camera or she is obscured by the male actor. For example, she may have a perfect ass, but WE never get to see it because through most of the video her ass is covered by male hands (the actor, cameraman, and crew members).

Then there are the ridiculous fuck positions and idiotic stunts so prevalent in porn. Most of which highlight the male performers insatiable desire for attention and misogynistic urges to degrade and overshadow the females.

If that is not enough to annoy you, on some Networks (DDF, 21st Sextury) the majority of their updates feature boy/boy/girl scenes. So now you've got two males jockeying for attention and cock blocking the female. While I'm ranting here, someone please explain to me why a man (after 15-20 minutes of vigorous sex) needs to jerk himself off for 5 minutes to finish the job. Especially when there is a gorgeous female right in front of him who is more than willing to finish what she started!

This is what I see: Too much attention and emphasis placed on the males. Little or no attention given to the females. The rampant misogynistic treatment of female performers. The overuse of gay stunt cocks in hetero porn. The fact that nearly every scene ends with prolonged on camera male masturbation. Well .... It's all too fucking gay for me.

My interest in porn begins and ends with BEAUTIFUL WOMEN.
Guys are welcome to join in, but the person behind the camera and the stunt cock in the scene need to recognize their job is to showcase the woman. That's it. Edited on Jul 08, 2014, 08:56am

09-10-13  07:28am - 407 days Is It Incompetence Or Is It Intentional? (31 Posts) - #32
Marphel (0)
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Believe me, Marphel, the pleasure is all mine.
I get similar comments from fellow members all the time relating to my parodies and digs targeting the enormous hodgepodge of simpletons connected with the business of commercial Porn.

But It's never enough! Neither gratitude for my producing guffaws for my PU family, or the perpetual pool of comic material, care-of the bumbling, nay, stumbling victims devoid of diencephalon through which sensory impulses pass to reach the cerebral cortex (whew!)
Tanslation> dim-wits.

Bottom line .....
You keep throwing kudos and yours-truly will toss back attempts at producing more laughter.

You got a deal my friend. Witty, funny, and thought provoking posts are priceless.

09-08-13  09:00am - 409 days Is It Incompetence Or Is It Intentional? (31 Posts) - #22
Marphel (0)
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


In my experience it's impossible to please everyone. Errors aside (and sometimes they are difficult to avoid - even Hollywood gets it wrong on a regular basis) I find that some customers like the actors to acknowledge the camera, others hate it. Some people like a long, slow build up, other complain about it getting boring. Some like photos, some video. Some don't understand why I don't just shoot both simultaneously (complaints about camera noise and visible flashes on video OR slightly blurry photos are the alternative). Some people like lots of talking, others don't like it, and don't get me started on accents.

Different tastes!

Is it better for a site to stick to a single style to be consistent and please a small membership, or try to span a range of styles and attract a wider range of members while not truly satisfying any of them?

Add to all of this that budgets are getting tighter so shoots get less time and effort spent on them, and it just gets worse.


Ed2009 you make valid points about the prospects of pleasing everyone, it cant be done. Also, from a business point of view it does makes sense to reach out to a larger audience. I agree with you 100% on those points.

However my original points of contention still stand.

When a cameraman parks his camera behind a male performers ass and sits there focusing on it for 5 minutes; who is his target audience? Surely you do not believe that the majority of subscribers to a hetero-sexual website want to be entertained by close-ups of male assholes? Yet, this happens all the time. My question is: Why? Is it incompetence or intentional?

09-08-13  08:18am - 409 days Is It Incompetence Or Is It Intentional? (31 Posts) - #20
Marphel (0)
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Originally Posted by graymane:


If this thread is touching on narcoleptic videographers, then ,brother, I'm your man .....Esp. if it has to do with those airhead lensmen who doze on close-ups while focusing on the genitals.
Wherein through endless frames all we see is this locked-in scene of a guy's hairy ass as his balls are resting on the crack of the gal's vagina. "SOMEBODY PLEASE SHAKE THIS DUMMY AND TELL THE IDIOT TO BACK-OFF FOR PETE SAKE!"

I've even speculated that most of these mentally challenged "dropped babies" were, as a youth, likely sorely deprived of seeing or knowing what pussies actually looked like (thank prudish mommies for that).
So now, camped behind a camera, flushed with free porn, he's probably trying to do catch-up at our expense!

Harking back in time at my tenure to this great forum, as well as being a thorn in my side, I've also been preaching until I'm blue in the face about it ... alas stupidity still reigns.


Graymane ... dude you crack me up. Thanks for making this frustrated man laugh.

09-08-13  08:06am - 409 days Is It Incompetence Or Is It Intentional? (31 Posts) - #19
Marphel (0)
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Originally Posted by Pornist:


Very relevant question!

I think: there is a misconvetion of what is erotics in most Areas of porn industry!

One of the most disappointing site for me is Brazzers: They have all you need: really sexy and really slutty actors, but they do not succeed to put them in Scene in an erotic way! The way they film the actresses and action do not touch the recipients.

Another example: The older vids of ZTOD are much more erotically touching than the newer ones.

It's never the actresses as such: it's the way how to put them put in scene - or not! It's the camera that matters not the actresses as such!

It's the conception of erotics that matters! You can film (put in scene) a mediocre looking women in way that causes a hard on between your legs! And you can film a Sienna West or Tiffany Mynx - that you fall asleep instantaneously.

This leads to another question: why do the actresses not intervene properly!


Right on Pornist. Especially what you wrote about Brazzers. They (Brazzers) have the potential to create some of the worlds best porn. Instead they totally waste their wealth of beautiful and talented women by ignoring them and focusing on the stupid tricks performed by idiotic stuntdicks.

09-02-13  04:36pm - 415 days Is It Incompetence Or Is It Intentional? (31 Posts) - #5
Marphel (0)
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Thanks for your comments guys. Your observations and opinions are greatly appreciated.

09-02-13  07:15am - 415 days Is It Incompetence Or Is It Intentional? (31 Posts) - Original Post - #1
Marphel (0)
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Is It Incompetence Or Is It Intentional?

Is it incompetence or is it intentional?

For some time now I have been wrestling with this question.
Every time I watch a porn video or sort through a photo set, I agonize over the failure of the cameraman and/or director to seize the moment and present the female performer(s) at their best. For example, when I see a gorgeous female performer beautifully made-up and styled, perfectly dressed or costumed on a nice set or good location I get excited. But that excitement quickly turns to disappointment when its all wasted or all gone 30 seconds into the video or 3 images into the photo set. Why go to so much trouble of model/actress selection, makeup and styling, wardrobe decisions, set building or location choices if it's all going to be wasted or discarded so quickly? Is it incompetence on the part of the cameraman/director? Do they not see the wasted opportunities? Or is it intentional? Just the way they want to present it?

Also when the male actor is introduced too early in the scene/set and starts hamming it up, grabbing and groping ass, cock-blocking the camera and scene stealing his way to another ruined video or picture set. To me it is extremely annoying! Think about it, any competent photographer/videographer would react immediately if someone or something were to get between his camera and his main subject. If it happens he is going to stop shooting and ask the offender to move, or he will change his shooting position/angle and continue shooting from there.
However, this is a constant problem in porn videos with male performers blocking the cameras view. How many times have you seen a doggy style position being shot from a side view only to have the male performer stick his leg and foot forward and totally block the view of the female? That's right too many times to count! Or worst yet, the cameraman who parks his camera directly behind the male performer and fills the screen with male ass crack!!

Again I ask, is it incompetence on the part of the cameraman/director? Do they not find it annoying to say the least? Or is it intentional? Just the way they want to present it?

What is your opinion?

08-15-13  06:05pm - 433 days Still too much wham-bam-thank-you-mam in porn (35 Posts) - #6
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Excellent thread Denner, I agree with you 100%.

I want to see more posing, stripping, and teasing in videos with the camera focused on the FEMALE performer(s). I subscribe to porn sites for one reason: to see beautiful women in erotic/sensual performances.

But, it's becoming impossible to find that these days. Besides the "suck, fuck, and close-ups" formula so many porn sites cling to, there is way too much attention paid to the male performers. Too many picture sets and videos are ruined by undue attention given to the males. I hate the repeated close-ups of male faces, male ass cracks, hairy legs, hands constantly grabbing pawing and blocking your view of the female.

My interest in porn begins and ends with beautiful women. I wish there were more porn sites who share that interest. Edited on Aug 15, 2013, 06:09pm

06-24-12  08:05pm - 850 days Do you have something you don't find the least bit interesting in porn (58 Posts) - #10
Marphel (0)
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Do you have something you don't find the least bit interesting in porn?

I am totaly turned off by the excessive attention given to the male "actors" on most hardcore porn sites. When I see some numb nutz stuntdick wearing a baseball cap backwards and making idiotic faces while f***ing, I want to puke. I wish someone would return to the good ole days when porn was ALL about sexy women.

2 guys and 1 girl scenes are a complete turnoff for me. I understand some people want to see it and thats fine, but some sites (east-european and russian) feature too many updates where the guys outnumber the girls.

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