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03-24-10  07:10am - 1617 days American Porn Is Focused On The Male (33 Posts) - #4
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I agree with you 100% on this one. American and European b/g porn is unwatchable these days. There is way too much emphasis on the males and their violent, self-absorbed behavior.

What I would like to know is: Who really likes this shit? Who are they making it for? This is not a separate porn niche that you have to look for if you want it. No, this crap permeates the majority of b/g porn produced over the past 2-3 years. There is no escaping it! MarkyMark Edited on Mar 24, 2010, 07:15am

03-13-10  11:36am - 1628 days Bisexuality - A Requirement to Enjoying Eastern European Porn? (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Bisexuality - A Requirement to Enjoying Eastern European Porn?

Recently I joined a website under the 21st Sextury network. The membership includes access to a variety of sites under the 21st Sextury banner. While I am enjoying some of the content on their sites, I am shocked at the number of images and videos featuring DP and foursomes (3 guys and 1 girl)on their sites.

Call me a caveman or homo-phobe if you want, but the sight of two guys and one girl having sex has no appeal to me. Watching three guys and one girl literally turns my stomach. In my honest opinion, you must have either rape fantasies or bi-sexual tendencies to enjoy watching those scenes.

For the record, I know we are all adults and we all have our sexual preferences. However, I feel cheated and annoyed when I subscribe to a site and find too many scenes featuring double penetration and/or 3 or 4 guys on 1 girl. For example, you see an update featuring one of your favorite models/actresses and you're excited. You begin viewing the images/video and there's the disappointment of finding its ruined because she's barely visible in any scenes. All you see is hairy legs, male hands, dicks, and male butt-crack. WTF!!!

21st Sextury has a site on their network titled DP Fanatics. You would think this would be THE site where they cater to that niche. Instead, DP and foursomes (3 guys and 1 girl)are way too common on ALL of their sites.
In fact, these scenes seem to be prevalent on many euro porn sites.

Which is why I raise the question: Is bi-sexuality a requirement for enjoying eastern european porn?

What do you think? MarkyMark

02-25-10  08:21am - 1644 days Girlz-High. Anyone know anything about this Japanese Site? (4 Posts) - #5
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Originally Posted by jd1961:


Google it, and look at the first entry.


jd1961, I did as you suggested. To be honest, I did not find much there that I could use/understand. MarkyMark

02-25-10  08:19am - 1644 days Girlz-High. Anyone know anything about this Japanese Site? (4 Posts) - #4
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Found the site and saw that all the wording is in Kanji characters so unless you know someone who can read Japanese or is willing to blindly join a completely foreign site I think you're out of luck. God knows what the Japanese billing processors are like too.


Thanks for the input Wittyguy.

My google toolbar will automatically translate the Japanese, but I am wary of joining a foreign site that I know little about. MarkyMark

02-24-10  01:09pm - 1644 days Girlz-High. Anyone know anything about this Japanese Site? (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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Girlz-High. Anyone know anything about this Japanese Site?

I've seen a few video clips from what appears to be a site called Girlz-High. The videos were of young Japanese women doing mostly softcore posing. Anyone know anything about this site? I would appreciate any info you can provide. Thanks.

MarkyMark MarkyMark

01-14-10  06:21pm - 1685 days What U See aint What U Get (4 Posts) - #5
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Originally Posted by pat362:


My suggestion is that you take a look at other dvd's the studio is responsible for and see if their is a trend. I suspect that you will find one. That means you should never buy anything from this studio since you are more likely to be disapointed.

Now if you want material involving girls wearing school uniforms then avoid most modern porn movies. Although the actresses in them are all legal since they have 2257 records. The schoolgril uniform is now associated with child pornography or at least is used by the Government in inciting that the actresses are playing underage teen
characters. You should look for older stuff that was made prior to the mid 90's.


pat362,

Thanks for adding to the discussion. Your point is well taken.

However, I'm not looking for porn in that particular niche, I just used the fetish of uniforms and the ficticious title "Naughty College Girls" to illustrate a point. The point being: cover art on DVD's and thumbnails on websites often misrepresent the actual content. The pornmakers seem to know what we want to see and use it in their marketing, but they refuse to deliver it in the actual product. I want to know why? MarkyMark Edited on Jan 14, 2010, 06:29pm

01-14-10  06:18pm - 1685 days What U See aint What U Get (4 Posts) - #4
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I agree completely with what you are saying. Thank God that previews of the scenes are available at most sites like VideoBox and Videosz to save unnecessary downloads.

I've always marveled at the same thing, the cover promises one thing the content is the usual mind numbing twenty minutes of uninterrupted sex. Even in my favorite niche, lingerie, the models usually start out almost naked, with a thong being the "lingerie" part. :-)

Keep ranting, you're right on target with your remarks.


messmer,

Thanks for responding. I appreciate your comment. MarkyMark

01-13-10  11:51am - 1687 days What U See aint What U Get (4 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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What U See aint What U Get

Ok, it's time to rant about something else that bothers me about the adult entertainment industry. (See my previous thread re: The Sorry State of Porn Today)

Why do so many pornographers use what amounts to bait and switch tactics?

Take a look at most adult DVD's. They grab your attention with the cover art. Example; the cover art for the video: "Naughty College Girls 2010" features the models/actresses all dressed in full schoolgirl and cheerleader uniforms, looking naughty, and posing in a sexy and very enticing manner. You think: "Wow, this looks good. I think I'll download/purchase it. So you do; and this is where the disappointment begins.

You scan the entire 2hrs + of video, and you cannot find a single moment where the actresses are fully dressed in their uniforms or even partially dressed. No striptease, no sexy poses or girls frolicking in their uniforms. Instead, everyone is butt naked and f**cking like rabbits the entire video. The whole "Naughty College Girl" theme is barely an afterthought, and just another excuse for more gonzo f**cking.

Now, here is what I find interesting. Careful thought goes into the packaging of any product. The design, colors, image composition and content are carefully crafted to appeal to a target audience, It's clear to me that the porn makers know this too. The proof can be found in what they choose to feature on their DVD cover art. What I do not understand is, why do they refuse to deliver it.

Is it too expensive? I dont think so. If they took the time and expense to shoot the actresses in full makeup and wardrobe for the cover art; they should be willing and able to do the same for the actual video. After all, the cover art is supposed to be a representation of the video they are trying sell.

Is it too much to ask of the actresses? The answer is an obvious; no. Their willingness to pose for the cover art indicates they would be willing to appear in full wardrobe for the video too. Also, were talking about porn actresses who are literally slapped, choked and spit upon while f**cking boneheaded, knuckle dragging, steroidal maniacs. So, I cant see any reason why these women would object to shooting any scenes that involve just sexy posing in their costumes or striptease.

The audience does not want to see it? Really!!? If the audience is not interested in certain themes, wardrobes/costumes, stiptease, sexy posing, then why are the pornmakers using these very things to market their videos?

The same "bait and switch" tactics can be found on many websites. I cant tell you how many times I've clicked on a thumbnail representing a video clip (because it featured an actress in a sexy pose), only to discover that pose, or anything similar to it is no where to be found in the video clip. WTF!!!

It's like I what I said earlier, they know what we want but they refuse to deliver it.Maybe, just maybe, there is someone out there who is able to discern what some people want to see and is willing to provide it. Peace. MarkyMark

01-13-10  05:45am - 1687 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #55
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Originally Posted by jd1961:


I couldn't agree more, and I've written these people when i can, and you should do so too. And if the site provides space for commenting, do that too.

It is awful nowadays. There's female talent, and then there are stunt cocks. Stunt cocks should be seen and not heard. Stunt cocks should never put their hands in front of the camera (they always do, as if they are oblivious to it). the stunt cock's face should never be shown in closeup, but I notice they're starting to do that again.

My advice to you: join a good Japanese site, you will be amazed at the difference in quality. And they control their stunt cocks.


JD1961,

Thanks for responding and I appreciate your suggestions.

I have posted comments on some of the offending sites and noticed later the comments were removed. Honestly, I dont think they care at all about our opinions; the only thing that will get their attention is cancellation of subscriptions and boycotts of their products.

As for Japanese porn, I do love Japanese women! I have a few videos of Rio/Tina Yuzuki, Maria Ozawa, and Eri Ito and would love to get more. What sites do you recommend? MarkyMark

01-11-10  01:09pm - 1688 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #53
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Originally Posted by BabyGetReal:


This is a great thread. Thank you markymark for starting it. I agree with most of what has been said.

I refuse to go to girl-only porn. As well as a beautiful and RESPONDING woman, I like to see a genuinely aroused male (especially if young and good looking; ending in a creampie or shooting off "right out of the box" but not in the face!). In fact, I also like seeing experienced women (= porn actresses) playing with inexperienced man, even for HJ. I've seen some I liked at Shane's World Online. More at my profile (click on my handle).

So I continue to watch hundreds of crappy videos to find the dozens of good ones that I keep. Most of the sites I've reviewed (again, see the list at my profile) have a few really good videos that I think would meet the critera of most who have commented on this forum. In each review I've listed specific titles so you can find those easily, if your taste agrees with mine.

I have not reviewed LittleMutt yet, but I think its (few) boy girl videos are the most erotic I've seen. But they do mostly girl girl (some also quite good) and solo and massage (very nice but after the first 5, its just more of the same). Clearly they (usually) wait until they have a good bg couple with real chemistry before they shoot one. Last time I joined, I complained to them about how few new ones they had added since my last membership. Anyway, I highly recommend it.

Other forums that overlap with the content of this one include:

Less fast and hard hardcore, please....
http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...d.html?threadid=1167

Tired Of The Same Old Thing
http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...d.html?threadid=1064

Against the grain
http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...ad.html?threadid=623


Thank you BabyGetReal, your comment and thoughts are appreciated. MarkyMark

01-09-10  07:17am - 1691 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #45
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


This is a great thread going here. I think the length of it is a testament to how big an issue this is for most of us.

While I agree with Malikstarks that this may be the golden age of porn just for the sheer variety out there, I have to also agree with the majority of posters who note that the bulk of porn has lost its zing. I started a thread last year noting that so much of porn had become boring since it was all the same. I noted that when gonzo started it was fun to watch because there was still some setup. One of you had the insight to get right to the core of the issue and said that the problem was with new stuff is that there is no tease. Yes, we know it�s porn and we know that the people are going to fuck, but some tease would still be nice.

I also have to agree that the rise of violence and degradation are a real negative. This factor alone, if it continues to grow, may be the downfall of this golden age of variety. I say that because mainstream society may force a crackdown, and it may eventually dry up the supply of fresh young talent. The former is probably more likely than the latter.

I remember seeing my first Max Hardcore flick way back in the early to mid 1990s and that was really pushing the boundaries then. But to look at some of his older stuff now the older Max stuff actually seems tame. Back then Max had a setup with some tease and he didn�t so forcefully abuse the girls. Hell, I remember when Max used to even go down on the girls because, well, it was the gentlemanly thing to do! In his more recent stuff it isn�t really about the sex anymore � it�s about pushing the degradation and humiliation. And where did that get Mr. Hardcore? He�s now married to the man with the most cigarettes in cell block D.

This is not to say that degradation and humiliation don�t have a place, but its place shouldn�t be in the mainstream. Consider the work done by Kink.com. Some of their stuff really pushes the envelope. Water Bondage was among their most extreme (no longer updating�) but still seemed fun since they went out of their way to make sure that the viewers knew that the women fully consented and were willing participants. That is a common theme in all the Kink stuff. It may be extreme, but it isn�t as sinister as some of the mainstream stuff that really aims to degrade and humiliate.

So I guess the bottom line for me (yes, that�s a pun) is that while this is a pretty great time in porn, we need to get back to some of the basics � treat the woman better � much better � and make porn about sex and the buildup to it.


Great post rearadmiral. Your insights are right on target. MarkyMark

01-09-10  07:10am - 1691 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #44
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Originally Posted by malikstarks:


I could be wrong man but I don't see it that way. I think porn today is probably better than it's ever been primarily due to the dizzying array of choices.

Back in the 80's and 90's most guys had to settle on the relatively small selection vids "in the back" of the local video store. The 90's brought the advent of the "adult mega store" but still the selection that is on offer at these places is like a grain of sand compared to what's available today on the web.

This is especially true for guys (like myself) who are looking to satisfy certain fetishes they may have. Back in the day I remember having to choose between a very paltry selection to satisfy my leg/foot fetish craving. Now I have more choices (at much cheaper prices) than I know what to do with.

Besides most of us here have only visited a small selection of the sites that are available (like over 4 mil. as of 06). I'd say you just for you. That said, even I haven't found a site that has everything I'd like, and I also agree with many of the points that have been made about regarding the obnoxious behavior.

I just see most of that though as some relatively minor negatives in what have been some overwhelmingly positive developments and innovations. (webcams, HD, mobile content, etc.)


malikstarks,

You make some valid points in regards to the quantity, variety, and availability of porn today. It's easier and comparatively cheaper today to access whatever you want.


However, my concern is that this extreme gonzo style seems to be infiltrating every network and website out there. It does not matter what the niche or fetish is; it's being presented in an over the top, rough, violent, and abusive manner. So, where's the variety? MarkyMark

01-06-10  02:36pm - 1693 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #35
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Originally Posted by monty2222:


Completely in agreement with the thread starter. I'm a little surprised that there's actually so many here who have switched to solo/all-girl porn, but you can count me in with that crowd, that's also the route I've been following more and more due to the rampant douchebaggery in straight porn. I also like to watch cunnilingus, but not with a guy's mug in the frame constantly so choices are kinda limited.
There are some reasonable producers of straight porn though. Naughty America doesn't have all the degrading crap in their videos and the stuntcocks usually stay relatively quiet as well, although the action can get repetitive after a while. The studio Sweet Sinner has sorta the same thing going with their stuff only better, but they're only available as VOD so that's a more expensive option.
The best all-girl sites I know, I've mentioned in the Lesbian Sites-thread: Club Sapphic and Kiss Me girl. We Live Together from Reality Kings is okay too, though they use more toys and the sex feels phonier.


monty2222,

Thanks for your input. I'll take a look at the sites you suggested. MarkyMark

01-06-10  02:33pm - 1693 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #34
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


I agree with pretty much everything GCode said. To me, the main reason that there's so much porn made like that today is because it sells. It sells pretty well, as far as I can tell. And as long as it keeps selling, they will keep making it. Until it stops selling. So, if you want it to end, you just do what it looks like you're already doing, which is vote with your wallet. And try to get everyone else to do the same.



I agree. I just wish others too would vote with their wallets and send those sleazeballs the only message they understand. MarkyMark

01-05-10  06:21pm - 1694 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #29
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Originally Posted by rome476:


I can't agree more; there is some good b/g porn out there but most is garbage for the stated reasons. In fact, I have also started looking at g/g porn in the last month and have really gotten into no toy lesbian action; it is far more interesting than most of today's gonzo crap.


rome476,

Thanks for adding to the discussion. I agree with you, girl only or girl-girl porn seems to be the way to go these days. MarkyMark

01-05-10  06:19pm - 1694 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #28
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Originally Posted by pat362:


There isn't much that I can add then to say that I agree with you guys that the state of modern porn isn't very good. I much prefer watching lesbian porn because they still produce stuff that includes a good mixture of hardcore and softcore.

Yes, the fact that everyone with a camera is a porn director is a real fact in the crap that is being produced. If you think about it. Filming porn movies on celluloid was an expensive endeavour so you had to have a decent budget just for the raw material. In turn that meant you needed people that had an intimate understanding of
celluloid. These people weren't recruited on a bus corner but they were graduates from cinema school that needed a job. If you had to rent a 12,000$ camera for a few days and had to spend money for film that is very expensive and can't be taped over than you made sure that the guy filming this knew what he was doing.

Since you can now buy a decent digital camera for a couple thousand dollars and whatever you film can be transfered to a computer and edited within the same day. Then why would every Tom, Dick and Harry think he's the next Fucking Spielberg of Porn.


pat362,

So true. Minimal production costs (digital costs compared to film production) does allow any moron to think he can make movies. That would explain why the cinematography and photography is so lame. But, I still can't understand why
they choose to act like such idiots and produce this wacked out, sociopathic garbage they want to pass off as porn. MarkyMark

01-05-10  06:06pm - 1694 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #27
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Anybody here ever subscribe to Reality Kings?

There is a male performer on Reality Kings who seems to "star" in every single update, on every site on their network. His name is Ramon. This ass clown has got to be one of the most annoying male performers in all of porn!

He talks non stop. From the opening frame til the video fades to black that dickhead is talking. What makes it even more annoying is he sounds like the character Puss n Boots from the Shrek movies (voiced by Antonio Banderas). Everytime he says something (which is often) you dont know whether to laugh or shout in anger STFU!!!

Also, Ramon is in love with himself. So, he tries to steal the spotlight in every scene he is in. I remember a video where the cameraman changed his position several times trying to capture the action properly. But each time the camera moved, Ramon would move too, trying to hog the spotlight!! Some of the cameramen seem to love Ramon too, because they will turn the camera away from a gorgeous 19yr old in all her naughty glory, to focus on Ramon stroking his dick and running his mouth. WTF!

But wait, there's more. Ramon loves to violently jam his fingers in female orifices. It does not matter if it's a fresh young newbie on their Pure18 site or a seasoned MILF, Ramon is going to violate her with his fingers. The discomfort this causes is quite apparent on the females faces, but it does not stop Ramon. No, he just goes on jammin his fingers in whatever opening he can find and running his damn mouth. It's sickening to watch and always a turnoff.

As I said in my original post, I dont understand it.
Who really likes this shit? MarkyMark

01-05-10  05:08pm - 1694 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #25
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Originally Posted by GCode:


Good porn in general where the people are making quality material is a dime a dozen, but it is out there. But, the reasons as to why sites are doing what is stated above could be for certain reasons. When it comes to the sites with a large fan base/popularity, other sites will attempt to mimmick what they are doing because they feel this is what the right thing to do is. Eventually, a site will get a large enough fanbase/users that they stop listening to others (including users) and you get material that 'it is what it is'. Meaning, most sites will just keep making what they want and will not care what most think until the site starts losing huge amounts of users. With that said, when it comes to hardcore and the scenes featuring descriptions of what you stated, I think this all has to do with the target audience and what they are looking for. When it comes to porn in general, I think the users that make it here have a more 'sophisticated' pallet and such scenes really disturb us.

I don't like to target one site for the reason of the demise of good hardcore but I think the fellas at BangBros have a lot to do with this (this is my just my opinion) and I'll explain why. For example, as a younger user and just a couple years out of college that has had numerous conversations about porn in the 18-25 range in recent years there seems to be one site that they all know about and like: BangBus and the other sites by this group. If you are not familiar with the style it is all out gonzo porn that features almost all the models seen as just fuck dolls that are there to be used and abused by the crew. A little different than the classic, "Wham, Bam, Thank You Ma'am" attitude but more like "Buck, duck, I don't give a fuck". I have not been a member in years but I cannot see them changing their style drastically but I know they are making tons of cash with an extremely large amount of users/fanbase. When the average user sees bangbros here, bangbros there they join. Then, they expect hardcore scenes to be like this and other sites want the money so they take the formula in to their hands as well.

I also think a large factor for the camera angles of close up pounding and nut jiggling action is the fact that showing penetration is what makes hardcore scenes 'hardcore' when comparing scenes shown on skinemax, a lot of ppv porn, and other scenes. Hence, the videographers may feel they need to focus on this just so they can show just how 'hardcore' their scene is with close up pounding. This is just an opinion as to why and I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons why, including the fact that they might just like looking at a freshly shaven onion sack flopping against the taint of a young lady.

Another reason as to why the behavior is getting quite juvenile is the fact that porn is quite easy to make now and maybe the actual BTS crew and crew in general are juvenile themselves nowadays. It always reminds me of boogie nights the movie, everyone seemed to enjoy partying and so on but everyone seemed a bit older. Maybe, up until to recently, there were older and mature crewmembers that calmed down the stars and other crew to create an almost 'parent' like atmosphere that monitored dumb behavior. Nowadays, it just seems like any old 18 to 20 somethingw are running loose with a HD camera wasted and immature fucking anything they can and treating all the models like crap. Also, it seems like people are soaking this shit up and liking it because it is everywhere. However, this is all just speculation.

To sum it up, I think the state of gonzo porn featuring all this behavior these days is just due to the target audience, an overall lack of maturity in porn, and certain sites on the top now determining what a hardcore scene should be like. But, this is all my opinion and I could just be ranting with no basis for any of this shit at all. Right now, I'm completely bored so I'm just typing scrambled thoughts. By the way, the largest shit I hate in ANY scene including hardcore and solo scenes is when the director or crew talks and/or fondles the models during a scene. I HATE IT x10.


GCode,

I appreciate your well thought out response. There's definitely some truth in what you say. MarkyMark

01-05-10  11:54am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #19
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Originally Posted by Cpmx54:


What I can't stand is when they're "interviewing" the female pornstar, she starts stripping, and suddenly move they camera over to the guy, and then the focus is on him for the next 30 seconds. He then won't shut up about her "nice tits" and "bouncy ass". I know, I get it, he's a guy, he's got a hot naked girl in front of him.. It's no surprise he's excited. Showing his facial expressions is not necessary.

I don't want to see him, his face, his hairy hands, and more importantly, I don't want to see the crack in his ass.

Yunno, I'm sure if I were the camera guy in some of these amateur vids, I'd want to reach over and grop the female from head to toe as well. But, at least I'd have the decency to cut it from the final video, before it goes up on the website.

Nothing like a big, fat, hairy hand reaching from behind the camera to kill your mood.


Cpmx54,

You are absolutely correct. Why pan over to the guy to see what he's doing, while there is a hot female stripping FOR THE CAMERA? It makes no freaking sense!!!

No offense to any gay forum posters but, go visit a gay site if you want to watch the guys. Keep the camera on the females; especially when they are stripping/posing for the camera(the viewers). MarkyMark

01-05-10  11:36am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #18
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Originally Posted by Capn:


There are all sorts of niches, which come & go out of fashion.

My preference is for softcore. Generally I find it much more erotic than the in some cases literally 'in your face' hardcore.

There is plenty out there, it is just a case of finding material that appeals.

Cap'n. :0/


Cap'n,

Thanks for responding.

I gotta agree with you. I'm leaning towards more softcore porn too. Anything that's numbnuts free. MarkyMark

01-05-10  07:15am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #15
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


What you are seeing is the evolution of what's known as gonzo porn - and, yes, it sucks.


RagingBuddhist,

Thanks for your input and words of wisdom.

"Gonzo porn", thats what they call it?
Well, I think it needs to crawl back into the cave or back under the rock it came from. MarkyMark

01-05-10  07:07am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #14
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I agree that so much gonzo is poorly done and not very erotic. I mostly look for certain niches that I find interesting. The sex may be formulaic, but at least you get a lot of whatever the niche is.


mbaya,

Thanks for respondin.

I've tried to do the same thing ('look for certain niches I find interesting') but even then they find a way to ruin it. I guess I need to keep on searching. MarkyMark

01-05-10  07:04am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #13
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Originally Posted by lespaul76:


Totally agree and one thing that got old real quick is how every damn movie seems to end with the guy jacking himself off at the end. I mean, HELLO, there's a hot chick on her knees in front of you and you can't cum unless you jack yourself off. Totally kills the scene(s) for me.

As far as the shooters needing to shut up they just need to take a cue from the early Vince Voyeur Rain Coaters series to see how it's done. Like said before too, there is good stuff out there but it's just like trying to find a needle in a haystack it seems.


lespaul76,

Dude, you are so right about that. Every scene does end with the guy jacking off and a facial cum shot. I am so sick of that crap!

I appreciate your response; and yes i will have to search a little harder to find some good stuff. MarkyMark

01-05-10  06:59am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #12
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


Yes, everything you mention is what killed porn for me quite a long time ago. Not that there isn't good stuff to be found - it's just too damn time-consuming and expensive to seek it out.

If an alien race observed the average modern porn flick, they would have no idea that sex between humans was something that caused very pleasant physical sensations and was for most people a healthy, positive thing. Modern porn seems to ignore the fact that sex feels good, and focuses instead on aggression, violence, degradation, humiliation, and juvenile macho bullshit.

**and yes, those are panties on my head...

WewWillyWinky,

Love your response and your sense of humor. Thanks for responding.
MarkyMark

01-05-10  06:57am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #11
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Douche bags run the world, or at least the world of porn. :(

That's the short answer, and the long answer is in sites like the ones you mentioned and the so many countless others out there. Sad but true. We at PU have talked endlessly about, well, guys talking in porn and most of us are pretty frustrated with it, not to mention all the other sins you mentioned.

I wish these assholes would take a lesson from the 1983 version of "Scarface": "Don't get high on your own supply." Okay, they're dealing in the perverted arts and not drugs but the same basic lesson applies: keep your goddamn hands to yourselves so the customer has a chance to 'enjoy' the product!

I gave up on a lot of hardcore porn a long time ago and my favorite sites are now girls only and girl-girl (not truly lesbian, but marketed as such). I know a lot guys find these to be boring but I like to think that they are quite relaxing. Why? Simple; no guys, no goofballs, no boners (both meanings apply here), and no bullshit. I am afraid if you want to see the women then you have to see that the guys take a fucking hike. Unfortunately many of these girls only sites have male help but if you're lucky they are kept quiet and off camera.

A few suggestions for guy-free porn:

- InTheCrack: All girl content, little-to-no talking, and they warn if even a guy's hands are involved in a scene

- ALSScan and it's sister site ALS Angels: Again all girl content, but a lot of BTS videos with dudes talking and appearing on camera

- AbbyWinters: Yes, it's all girl as well, and may have quite a few female employees, but it's well liked by some here at PU, though it has been accused of being boring the last few months and has also been in some trouble



Turboshaft,

Thanks for the insight. Your assessment of hardcore porn and it's ongoing issues is spot on. Thanks again. MarkyMark

01-05-10  06:53am - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #10
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Originally Posted by justme:


:)

Anyways, completely agree. And as such I gave up on hardcore porn years ago, switched to girl-only porn. Best decision I ever made porn-wise.

But definitely do check out what European porn sites have to offer, they don't have all the bullshit the meathead American sites have.


Justme,

Thanks for responding.

I think you have the right idea about switching to girl-only porn. From now on, I want my porn numbnuts free!
Someone recommended the site IntheCrack. Think I will check it out. MarkyMark

01-04-10  09:06pm - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - #3
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Originally Posted by markfx:


Excellent first post and I completely agree.
The directors need to STFU.
I also don't need close-ups of the stunt dick's face.
I also feel the violence and debasement of the women is unnecessary and I don't find it stimulating.

Mark


Thanks for your input. I do appreciate the response.
Sometimes I wonder if it's just me or what?
It good to hear what others are thinking too. MarkyMark

01-04-10  07:36pm - 1695 days The Sorry State of Porn Today (62 Posts) - Original Post - #1
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The Sorry State of Porn Today

Let me apologize in advance if this thread already exists on this forum. I'm a newbie here and I need to vent. So here goes.

After viewing several heterosexual porn sites I want to know; when did the attention shift from female performers to males? I dont understand it, and I find it very annoying.

Every site I've subscribed too recently (Reality Kings, Brazzers, Bang Bros, Porn.com to mention a few) seem to focus non-stop on the male performers and their idiotic behavior. As a result, some of the photo sets and most of the videos are unwatchable (in my opinion).

I've seen countless videos on these sites where the males talk non-stop; they NEVER shut up. They barge their way into the intros and interviews with the female performer, all the time making faces at the camera and flashing hand signs. When the intros are over and it's time for the female to strip, it's impossible to get a good look at her body because the whole freaking crew (cameraman, the hired dick, everyone on the set) starts grabbing ass and pawing tits. Its a numbnuts free-for-all.

Most of us subscribe to these sites to watch beautiful women perform. And some of the sites I mentioned feature some really attractive women. But, what do we get for our hard earned cash? We get to see the tatoos on the arms and hands of the numbnuts' who can't control themselves (or be controlled by the director) long enough for the viewers to enjoy these attractive women too.

Also, the camerawork on most videos is pathetic. The camera angles chosen, the cropping, closeups, show way too much male anatomy and not enough of the females. Sorry, but I dont subscribe to porn to watch some guys pasty, pale, hairy ass and balls rock back and forth.
We want to see the WOMEN. Dont these idiots get it? Or, maybe they just dont care about their subscribers. It's as if they are saying: "This is what we do, take it or leave it."

That reminds me. WTF is up with all of the violence? (choking, slapping, spitting in peoples faces, gangbangs) New videos on some of these sites feature scenes with more d*cks than p*ssy; there are so many males in the video it looks like prison sex! You have to literally search for the female. Hey, I understand some people really enjoy that, and there are porn sites that specialize in that niche. Thats fine. But, why is this stuff creeping into so many scenes on sites that are not geared for that niche?

Yes, I understand some of the sites and networks I referred to are considered "Reality" porn and feature ongoing characters (mostly males) and themes for our entertainment. But, that still does not justify the idiotic behavior I listed in this rant. Also, many of the same issues/problems can be found in other genres of porn. (Please, don't get me started on Euro-porn and their unending fixation with DP scenes). Sheesh!

In conclusion, I honestly believe this knuckle dragging, steroid munching, gangbanging, thuggish acting, numbnuts mentality is ruining the porn industry. Well, maybe not for everyone; but it's definitely killing it for me. MarkyMark

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