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11-15-14  08:07am - 5 days #742
Khan
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


WDGirls.com is now accepting memberships again, although for a limited time only. I would love to discuss this site more, but for starters, could you please re-list it?


Sorry, I asked an editor to take a look and, as Pat predicted, they declined to re-list since the site says it's only opening memberships until Dec 1st.

You can still discuss it if you'd like.

Sorry I couldn't help more. Senior Administrator
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11-15-14  06:10pm - 5 days #743
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Originally Posted by biker:


^So these people are publicizing a site that is illegal? How do they get away with that?


Personally I think that the drunk thing is mostly for show and the women just pretend to be inebriated. There are so many things that can go wrong with someone who is drunk that it's make shooting scene a waste of time and money. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-15-14  11:04pm - 4 days #744
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^That makes sense. Hard to get people to cooperate when their intoxicated. Pretending to be drunk during sex may be illegal in some nations. Not so much a fictional scene, but one that is supposed to be reality. I aim to misbehave Edited on Nov 15, 2014, 11:10pm

11-16-14  09:51am - 4 days #745
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^I don't think pretending to be drunk is illegal per say but I certainly wouldn't want to be the company who shot those types of scenes if they don't also happen to have a video of the girl saying that it's all pretend after the scene/ Otherwise an enterprising young lady with a lawyer could take those fools to court by saying that she wasn't pretending and that she was drunk and they took advantage of her. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-16-14  11:24am - 4 days #746
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Sorry, I asked an editor to take a look and, as Pat predicted, they declined to re-list since the site says it's only opening memberships until Dec 1st.

You can still discuss it if you'd like.

Sorry I couldn't help more.


FWIW, I went to this site's URL yesterday and saw the offer that goes away on 12/1/14. I bookmarked it so I could check it out when I had more time. When I came back the link didn't work, so I assume that the site is closed to new business already.

Also worthy of note, the headline on the site had a comment that it was rated #1 by Rabbits Reviews. Rabbits Reviews has nothing at all on WDGirls.com.

Looks to be like this site is flaky (why else will they close enrollments?) and, contradictorily, is willing to prevaricate in its promotional material.

I think I will give these guys a wide berth and wait until they choose to go mainstream, if they do, and see what TBP has to say when (if) TBP does a review.

11-16-14  12:19pm - 4 days #747
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


FWIW, I went to this site's URL yesterday and saw the offer that goes away on 12/1/14. I bookmarked it so I could check it out when I had more time. When I came back the link didn't work, so I assume that the site is closed to new business already.

Also worthy of note, the headline on the site had a comment that it was rated #1 by Rabbits Reviews. Rabbits Reviews has nothing at all on WDGirls.com.

Looks to be like this site is flaky (why else will they close enrollments?) and, contradictorily, is willing to prevaricate in its promotional material.

I think I will give these guys a wide berth and wait until they choose to go mainstream, if they do, and see what TBP has to say when (if) TBP does a review.


I tried the link, and it is still working for me.

I don't know about the Rabbit's Reviews thing. They were reviewed on Rabbits Reviews in 2013:

https://web.archive.org/web/201303271419...s.com/c15/Drunk.html

They were de-listed there when they closed their site to new members for the first time earlier this year.

While I can't speak for the owners of the site, I can give you the answer that they gave me regarding why they felt the need to close their site to new memberships. They had a large amount of their content pirated and became aware of some members, or maybe hacked accounts, who were posting their content for free. To try to get control of the situation, they felt the need to close off the site. I don't know any more than that. You can say they are "flaky" for closing off their site, but it's better than leaving the industry entirely, which is what many companies have done.

11-17-14  10:02am - 3 days #748
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Could you please list/re-list AmericanKittens.com? They are back online with a newly redesigned site.

11-17-14  11:08am - 3 days #749
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


Could you please list/re-list AmericanKittens.com? They are back online with a newly redesigned site.


Sorry but no can do. Site looks to be a free site now and we do not list free sites. Senior Administrator
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11-17-14  11:51am - 3 days #750
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It's actually not free, although it looks that way. Trust me, I just paid $15.00 for a membership. It says free to join, but that just gets you the ability to browse the thumbnails. You have to buy a membership to actually access the content.

11-17-14  02:01pm - 3 days #751
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I don't think pretending to be drunk is illegal per say but I certainly wouldn't want to be the company who shot those types of scenes if they don't also happen to have a video of the girl saying that it's all pretend after the scene/ Otherwise an enterprising young lady with a lawyer could take those fools to court by saying that she wasn't pretending and that she was drunk and they took advantage of her.


I was able to access the site and watched the preview loop. Good quality video, but that's about the only positive thing I can say about it. But that's a personal perspective. I don't get the drunk thing, a girl who is totally skunked isn't my idea of a sexy babe in a sexy scene.

In any case, as I always say different strokes for different strokers.

11-17-14  06:23pm - 3 days #752
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


It's actually not free, although it looks that way. Trust me, I just paid $15.00 for a membership. It says free to join, but that just gets you the ability to browse the thumbnails. You have to buy a membership to actually access the content.


I can't speak for the amount you paid but they clearly say on one of their pages that you can join for free simply by entering some basic info. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-17-14  06:40pm - 3 days #753
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


It's actually not free, although it looks that way. Trust me, I just paid $15.00 for a membership. It says free to join, but that just gets you the ability to browse the thumbnails. You have to buy a membership to actually access the content.


How about this ...

Since they're so unclear at to if they're a free site or a pay site, they'll need to contact the TBP Editors themselves if they want their site relisted. That way they can directly answer any questions the editors have. Senior Administrator
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11-17-14  07:29pm - 3 days #754
LPee23 (13)
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I can't speak for the amount you paid but they clearly say on one of their pages that you can join for free simply by entering some basic info.


Yeah, but if you do that, you will find that the free membership just gives you the ability to preview the thumbnails.

11-18-14  05:53pm - 2 days #755
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^What you describe sounds like a scam site and I see no point in talking about a scam other than to advise people to stay away from it. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-19-14  08:30am - 1 day #756
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That's fine if that is your opinion. It would still be valuable to have it listed so that others can refer to it and the experiences of others.

11-19-14  06:35pm - 1 day #757
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^I see it differently because if TBP/PU list the site than they are in fact supporting what I consider to be a scam site. You may have a different opinion of what a scam site is but mine is simple. If a site (like yours) which does not show a join price anywhere on their preview section and actually goes out of it's way to make it appear as though it's free than it's scamming people.

Why not choose a site with similar content that TBP shows as being active to talk about instead of trying to get a site that looks fishy reinstated. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-19-14  09:43pm - 23 hrs #758
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I see it differently because if TBP/PU list the site than they are in fact supporting what I consider to be a scam site. You may have a different opinion of what a scam site is but mine is simple. If a site (like yours) which does not show a join price anywhere on their preview section and actually goes out of it's way to make it appear as though it's free than it's scamming people.

Why not choose a site with similar content that TBP shows as being active to talk about instead of trying to get a site that looks fishy reinstated.


I agree with Pat. The PU/TBP site has four levels of business practice notifications:

1. No comments or warnings - I interpret this as no indication of bad practices by the site. (A solid green light)

2. Cross check warnings - I interpret this as a no indication of bad practices by the site except the caution to a member of the site to be aware of cross checked options appearing in the signup process. (A flashing yellow (caution) light)

3. Posting of a site but no evaluations and a notice that TBP does not accept the business practices of the site - I interpret this as acknowledgement of the site but that TBP will not go any further. (A flashing red light (stop and check the situation before proceeding))

4. Not posting a site (such as the one under discussion) - The site fails in one or more respects to qualify for inclusion on the site - I interpret this as being a loud and clear signal that the site should be avoided. (A do not enter sign)

That's why I find PU/TBP to be superior to any of the other review sites and what makes this thread useful in addressing sites that are new or are reactivations of previously dormant sites.

That's also why, in my opinion, a site like AmericanKittens.com with its current business practices should not be included in the PU site unless and until it uses legitimate business practices. Edited 22 Hours Ago

11-20-14  02:40pm - 6 hrs #759
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I am in contact with the webmaster, and I will pass on your feedback. I think they are honestly trying to succeed - maybe trying too hard and deviating from the norm - but it is what it is.

11-20-14  06:07pm - 2 hrs #760
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^It's not rocket science. If you are a person or group of persons who own content and would like to make some money from that content by offering it to people on the net than all you need to do is make sure that your site has an icon called "join". This icon would automatically bring up a join page where a possible customer knows how you want him or her to pay to get access to that content. Now if as you say they are trying too hard to succeed than you might want to tell them that they are wasting their time because they are driving in the wrong direction. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-20-14  06:19pm - 2 hrs #761
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Now if as you say they are trying too hard to succeed than you might want to tell them that they are wasting their time because they are driving in the wrong direction.


Yes, I hesitate to be so direct, but this is the case. While I have requested that the site be re-listed for the sake of discussion, I will be refraining from reviewing them because they have too many issues to work out. It's kind of hard to tell them this, because they have invested a lot in moving in this direction, but I fear your instincts are right. The site does have amazing content, and an awesome landing page. However, they have moved to a "Netflix" style model in which the content is not supposed to be downloadable. Before you all complain about this, believe me, my head is in the same place as yours. I just feel for them a little because they spent a lot of time and money building a custom code base to make this happen. I wish them the best of luck. It's kind of hard to say it now, but honestly customers want downloadable content...

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