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04-10-14  08:27pm - 254 days Original Post - #1
turboshaft (24)
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There's a "pornography crisis in the lesbian community"?

Saw this article on Slate the other day, thought I'd share. If you don't have time to read the article, it basically boils down to how the vast majority of porn is catered and sold to straight men, including "lesbian" (more accurately girl-girl) material.

Not to sound too dismissive of this "pornography crisis" but I couldn't help laughing as I read. Not all performers are "Women with extra long fingernails and fried blonde hair looking bored while idly thumbing one anotherís [privates]," like the author quotes one of her friends. Nor do they all have "vast, implanted chests" as another respondent complained.

Like I say for so many other issues my advice would be to watch more porn, as not all performers are blonde, bored, and buxom, if such things are ruining your fantasy (as they sometimes do for me). But it's not all bad, as one commenter noted, because despite all of its problems at least lesbian porn passes the Bechdel test.


PS: This thread and my sarcasm relating to the article's premise should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm not trying to offend anyone just because they think porn should cater to more than one type of viewer, just glad to find something written about porn that's actually pretty lighthearted and reasonable for a change.
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04-11-14  09:51am - 253 days #2
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You had me scared there for a minute. I'm a lesbian porn lover. Beside the meatball sub, two women making love with each other is proof there is a God. I aim to misbehave

04-11-14  10:43am - 253 days #3
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If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

04-11-14  05:36pm - 253 days #4
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Women definitely do have their own tastes in porn. My wife just told me today she's getting into Hentai because of the story lines. I am intrigued.

04-14-14  01:12pm - 250 days #5
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OK I am willing to step up and take one for the team if they need a test dummy to figure this out .
Since 2007 wow what a ride it was , be well !

04-28-14  09:13am - 236 days #6
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Well we've got a huge focus in girl-girl porn on abbywinters.com; our models aren't 'fake' (no airbrushing, make-up, cosmetic surgery, etc), many are privately lesbian or bisexual, and in general there's a fairly strong 'sex positive' vibe to what we do.

I'll add that I think they're a little off in implying that fakeness is a male taste or influence on porn. Plenty of media is fake, regardless of the target audience, and plenty of males have a keen enthusiasm for 'the real thing' too.

That said, I think it's still fair to say that we don't fundamentally cater to the lesbian demographic. Some of our content is super for them, and they've told us as much (real girlfriends are a hit), but a lot of it really isn't in step with queer culture. Also, most of our members are men.

More broadly, though, I'd say that erotic fiction is the true hub of female-targeted smut- and there's no shortage of queer representation in that scene.

04-28-14  01:53pm - 236 days #7
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I can vouch for abbywinters and their seemingly genuine lesbians. They scenes do not seem forced at all like so many others.

Since AWpress is here, just wanted to bring up the fond memory of a number of years ago being politely asked to slow down and stick around for a while. It seems they took offense to me downloading their entire site over the course of two short evenings. Sorry about that "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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04-29-14  02:21am - 235 days #8
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Oh lol, no offence with that; though we don't have a hard download limit, our bandwidth monitoring software does shoot out emails to accounts that trip certain flags. Certainly, though, the intention isn't to target fans on a barnstorming AW binge. Rather, most of the accounts that raise those flags have either been hacked, shared, or using some unsavoury software.

With the genuinity thing, it's a tricky thing to make guarantees upon, or enforce (after all, we're not the sexuality police). Also, we don't aim to shoot people of a specific sexuality only. However, we can (and do) insist on awesome shoots of awesome girls having fun. If someone's not into it, it shows, and we're not about limp and dull-eyed professionals going through the motions.

Ultimately, I'd estimate that most of the girls who appear in girl-girl scenes are 'bi-curious' or bisexual. Exclusive lesbians aren't rare, though, and are among some of our most popular models (they're so sexually aggressive and confident). We'd never want someone to do something for us that they weren't into and take great measures to communicate that.

04-29-14  08:32pm - 235 days #9
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If I recall correctly the concern was I may be using a webcrawler that was downloading the same video multiple times and on every resolution. On most sites I use a manager but manually select the download links. Keeps my overlap pretty low. Which is good for you and me both. To be fair I will point out that while they communicated concern with me I was never restricted in anyway. Although, I recall being told there was a download limit. At the time The highest quality content totaled up to about 250 GB and that was the limit. Of all the limits I have seen over the years this is one I will not complain about and totally understand why it is there. Now I am not sure what would have happened if I actually exceeded that 250 GB mark. After telling them my account was not hacked and I was downloading their site like a raped ape they seemed fine with it.

Back to the original topic though. I have seen a few other decent sites. I believe Lesbia (I think that is the spelling) has some pretty good stuff too that seems at least reasonably realistic. They also have a good filming style. It has less of the girl next door feel than AW though. I guess it depends on what you like. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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04-30-14  01:31am - 234 days #10
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Oh yep, lesbea is great; a nice mix of girl-girl and glamour/erotica. Though not dedicated to girl-girl content, our Aussie friends at IShotMyself.com offer beautifully shot, genuine amateur content (without the fake stuff).

05-01-14  06:05pm - 233 days #11
turboshaft (24)
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


Since AWpress is here, just wanted to bring up the fond memory of a number of years ago being politely asked to slow down and stick around for a while. It seems they took offense to me downloading their entire site over the course of two short evenings. Sorry about that




I keep thinking if someone is ever going to be accused of "breaking the Internet" you'll be one of the prime suspects.

Or you could always use FedEx for your "data," though I doubt any sites have that as an option right now. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-04-14  09:28am - 230 days #12
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You know I had been thinking of this recently. For some sites it would make sense to offer to sell their collection on disk rather than have people download it. I would be a good example. Others have bandwidth restrictions on their monthly internet and might be willing to pay for say a 3 month subscription plus a HHD and shipping for a site like FTV. It would save the site hosting fees and would get you the data much faster. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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05-04-14  06:50pm - 230 days #13
turboshaft (24)
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I would think the main problem, aside from the logistics of transferring an entire massive site's contents to a drive or drives, is the security problems. And at the same time I doubt they would want to make it too hard for a customer to access it--i.e., no two-man rule bullshit just to plug in the drive.

But maybe sites could make older material available for limited separate purchase, say ten years or more, as a single bulk drive for the more nostalgic smut lover (though it seems weird to think of 2003 as nostalgic).

Until something like Google Fiber speeds become the norm and, more importantly in my opinion, high speed Internet access gets treated like a true utility like water or power, FedExed hard drives will still move more data faster. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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