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04-11-13  02:27pm - 560 days Original Post - #1
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Have you noticed .. or panty lovers lament?!

This is not addressed to those for whom panties are a fetish, iow. those who get a kick from a Sears catalogue, but to those who like to see pretty women wear them before they get fully naked. In other words, people like me!

Here is my observation (and bafflement as to why this should be so):

In the overwhelming majority of picture sets that feature a strip sequence there is hardly one picture that will depict a woman standing up, in a frontal shot, with panties still fully up.

Picture lovers, take a look at the sets you saved. Am I right?

The model will stand slightly bent forward so that most of her belly will cover her panties until only a small triangle is showing, or she will lean to the right or left hiding most of her undergarment. Or in most cases she will show the panties, but this time from the rear, fingers hooked into the waistband, with panties already more than halfway down.

There is a third method I really despise and that is when she takes the panties down at the same time as her jeans or slacks. This may be a nice, quick, convenient way in real life of getting undressed in a hurry ... but in a picture set that's supposed to be erotic?

There's never an effort to hide anything else .. is there something especially shameful about exposing your panties to the full? Why are most photographers so reluctant to leave in one or two frontal shots, preferably shot while kneeling?

SeanR comes closest but with him it is mostly crotch shots and while I love those it is not what I crave to see most: a couple of pictures per set that are full frontal, standing, with panties (hopefully sexy) still up around the hips.

04-11-13  03:47pm - 560 days #2
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What you say is lamentably very true, my friend & I do feel for you.

This piled upon scant few decent strip sequences anyway!

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04-11-13  10:13pm - 560 days #3
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Messmer, I think its part of the general trend among photogs and porn sites of neglecting the slow sexy strip tease. How many times for example have you seen a photo set or video where the cameraman focuses on the girl unbuttoning her blouse or top one button at a time, or slowly unzipping it if it has a zipper? Then making her bra straps fall one at a time, and giving some sexy cleavage views and nipple peeks before taking off her bra. Then getting her jeans/pants/skirt off in a sexy way. Then letting us enjoy some sexy moves while she's wearing only her panties. Then some sexy panty tease with both front and rear views. If a girl does that right, I'm rock hard before she even takes her panties off! And you mentioned one of my pet peeves--for some reason we almost always get the rear view only when models take their panties off. How about pull them down nice and slow to the mid thigh level, then pull them back up, turn around, and do it again. But sadly, such videos or photo sets are next to impossible to find. In most cases and for most porn sites, its let's get to fully nude in a hurry. Very frustrating for a panty lover like me!

I'm going to post a review of All Panty Pass very soon. My one month membership just ended there, and sadly, I find it hard to recommend the site. luv lickn clit

04-11-13  10:19pm - 560 days #4
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Originally Posted by Capn:


What you say is lamentably very true, my friend & I do feel for you.

This piled upon scant few decent strip sequences anyway!

Cap'n.


How true, Cap'n! I think someone took my request for more lingerie seriously but failed to get the spirit of my request which was to see a complete strip sequence from fully clothed to fully naked rather than having someone start in a teddy or already in stockings and garter belt right from picture one. I appreciate the lingerie but that is not what I was after, as you know only too well. And then when you get a set that starts with fully clothed they coyly hide the undies .... and there, once again goes the tease factor. And I sure wish that I could stop boring myself silly repeating the same thing over and over. But otoh that's what the photogs are doing to me, aren't they?

04-12-13  10:19am - 559 days #5
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Originally Posted by messmer:


what I crave to see most: a couple of pictures per set that are full frontal, standing, with panties (hopefully sexy) still up around the hips.


I am happy to include this in all photo sets where the models wear panties. I already have in some sets but by no means all.

I do not think there is any photographer conspiracy to avoid these shots. Photographers can only use a mixture of their own judgement and members' requests if they are shooting for a site that has them. I have built many requests into my own photo shoots.

In videos, it is somewhat more difficult because there is only so much direction you can give a model and she might not remember all of it. Indeed, the photographer might not remember all of it (speaking for myself). There is not much scope for doing several takes either. Shoots have to be done incredibly fast.

04-12-13  10:34am - 559 days #6
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Originally Posted by luv lickn clit:


Messmer, I think its part of the general trend among photogs and porn sites of neglecting the slow sexy strip tease. How many times for example have you seen a photo set or video where the cameraman focuses on the girl unbuttoning her blouse or top one button at a time, or slowly unzipping it if it has a zipper? Then making her bra straps fall one at a time, and giving some sexy cleavage views and nipple peeks before taking off her bra. Then getting her jeans/pants/skirt off in a sexy way. Then letting us enjoy some sexy moves while she's wearing only her panties. Then some sexy panty tease with both front and rear views. If a girl does that right, I'm rock hard before she even takes her panties off! And you mentioned one of my pet peeves--for some reason we almost always get the rear view only when models take their panties off. How about pull them down nice and slow to the mid thigh level, then pull them back up, turn around, and do it again. But sadly, such videos or photo sets are next to impossible to find. In most cases and for most porn sites, its let's get to fully nude in a hurry. Very frustrating for a panty lover like me!

I'm going to post a review of All Panty Pass very soon. My one month membership just ended there, and sadly, I find it hard to recommend the site.


Aaah, you are making me drool. This is exactly how I would love to see it done. That is why I have turned mostly to videos, they don't give me what I want either (re. panties) but are more exciting than the average picture set these days. I have dropped a couple of formerly favorite picture sites for good and am waiting out the rest of my subscription time with the last of them now. Every update, every day has been a major disappointment. I swear they used to be better and have old sets to prove it but now it is cookie cutter photography just like all the others.

04-12-13  10:46am - 559 days #7
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


I am happy to include this in all photo sets where the models wear panties. I already have in some sets but by no means all.

I do not think there is any photographer conspiracy to avoid these shots. Photographers can only use a mixture of their own judgement and members' requests if they are shooting for a site that has them. I have built many requests into my own photo shoots.

In videos, it is somewhat more difficult because there is only so much direction you can give a model and she might not remember all of it. Indeed, the photographer might not remember all of it (speaking for myself). There is not much scope for doing several takes either. Shoots have to be done incredibly fast.


That's refreshing to know ( re. full frontal, panties still up), claypaws. I can't understand why photographers just don't leave one or two shots like that in, it wouldn't hurt anyone, nor offend anyone's taste and would allow me to put up with an endless series of nude shots that are almost identical to each other. Trouble is, if I remember right, you shoot for a site where good strip shoots are hard to come by so I would have to wait for your contributions which might not be every day or even every week.

04-15-13  01:45pm - 556 days #8
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I think almost every single strip on my sites shows the models involved in various states of undress including wearing panties. I've always insisted on showing each stage of the undressing. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

04-15-13  03:01pm - 556 days #9
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If there is no strip they must acquit !

My picture collection is mostly of strip types I just do not find it well suited to just have instant nudes.

04-16-13  11:14am - 555 days #10
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I think almost every single strip on my sites shows the models involved in various states of undress including wearing panties. I've always insisted on showing each stage of the undressing.


Hi Ed, I just took a quick tour of AMC and liked what I saw re. frontal view of panties. Question: it is not obvious from the samples if the ladies strip completely. Do they? And # 2: What would be your biggest picture size? Maybe the information was there but I didn't see it. Thanks.

04-16-13  11:15am - 555 days #11
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


If there is no strip they must acquit !

My picture collection is mostly of strip types I just do not find it well suited to just have instant nudes.


I am the same way, CT. That's why I've never subscribed to sites like MetArt because I assume they are mostly nude studies. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

04-28-13  05:53pm - 543 days #12
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Please keep in touch 'messmer'. I love panties, and am yet to find a site that mixes sex with sexy underwear. Most of the time they just pull 'em down really quickly. I will keep an eye out.

04-28-13  11:24pm - 543 days #13
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I am the same way, CT. That's why I've never subscribed to sites like MetArt because I assume they are mostly nude studies. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


You are correct. Almost all of MetArt's photo sets start totally naked.

Me, Iove panties and especially when they are played with like a panty wedgie. Here's an example (Kathia Nobili):



I'm also into another use of panties...panty stuffing (Xena Wilkes):



Then there are crotchless panties (love them when the babe leaves them on whilst being porked):



And its cousin, a crotchless topless monokini:

Edited on Apr 28, 2013, 11:41pm

04-29-13  10:56am - 542 days #14
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Originally Posted by etna:


Please keep in touch 'messmer'. I love panties, and am yet to find a site that mixes sex with sexy underwear. Most of the time they just pull 'em down really quickly. I will keep an eye out.


Thanks, etna, I surely would appreciate if you did keep an eye open for me. I haven't had any luck.

04-29-13  11:04am - 542 days #15
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


You are correct. Almost all of MetArt's photo sets start totally naked.


Wow, thanks for the samples, Monahan. I really appreciate crotchless panties and developed a great liking for panty stuffing when I subscribed to "In The Crack" a few years ago.

My main turn on is still full-backed, lacy, nylon panties and I always get angry when photographers have the occasional model that does wear them and then make her take them down discretely before you can see them in their fullness!

04-29-13  11:09am - 542 days #16
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By the way, only last week I heard two commentators on CNN (women) make remarks on how much they disliked the word "panties!" Does anyone have a clue why this word would be objectionable to some and if it is, what is its substitute?

04-29-13  12:36pm - 542 days #17
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


You are correct. Almost all of MetArt's photo sets start totally naked.

Me,
I'm also into another use of panties...panty stuffing (Xena Wilkes):

And its cousin, a crotchless topless monokini:




Looks like fingers where the crotch is, or I need glasses LOL

04-29-13  12:38pm - 542 days #18
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Originally Posted by messmer:


By the way, only last week I heard two commentators on CNN (women) make remarks on how much they disliked the word "panties!" Does anyone have a clue why this word would be objectionable to some and if it is, what is its substitute?


It would be objectionable when they wear them LOL

05-03-13  09:41pm - 538 days #19
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


You are correct. Almost all of MetArt's photo sets start totally naked.


Monahan, I'm guessing you're not a current member at Met-Art, because most of their sets do start fully clothed, and there are very few fully nude sets. I did a count on the last 80 sets (about 3 weeks worth), and 51 of 80 started with the girl clothed (no breasts or pussy showing). Are you thinking of Femjoy?

Despite the high percentage of intially clothed sets, the models typically lose the clothes fast, and there are very few good strip sequences. The photographer Antonio Clemens does the best job of photographing strip sequences.

Messmer, I also counted how many of the last 80 sets had panties. It was only 25 of 80, and maybe half of those had the full frontal shots you describe. Met-Art is a good site, but strip-tease and panties are not their forte. luv lickn clit

05-03-13  10:16pm - 538 days #20
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Originally Posted by luv lickn clit:


Monahan, I'm guessing you're not a current member at Met-Art, because most of their sets do start fully clothed, and there are very few fully nude sets. I did a count on the last 80 sets (about 3 weeks worth), and 51 of 80 started with the girl clothed (no breasts or pussy showing). Are you thinking of Femjoy?

Despite the high percentage of intially clothed sets, the models typically lose the clothes fast, and there are very few good strip sequences. The photographer Antonio Clemens does the best job of photographing strip sequences.

Messmer, I also counted how many of the last 80 sets had panties. It was only 25 of 80, and maybe half of those had the full frontal shots you describe. Met-Art is a good site, but strip-tease and panties are not their forte.


You nailed it. I was a member of MetArt for over a year but dropped the site in early 2012. The primary reason I moved on was there were few shots with even lingerie in tease situations.

If they have changed their approach I may return.

05-04-13  10:29am - 537 days #21
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Originally Posted by luv lickn clit:


Despite the high percentage of intially clothed sets, the models typically lose the clothes fast, and there are very few good strip sequences. The photographer Antonio Clemens does the best job of photographing strip sequences.

Messmer, I also counted how many of the last 80 sets had panties. It was only 25 of 80, and maybe half of those had the full frontal shots you describe. Met-Art is a good site, but strip-tease and panties are not their forte.


Thanks, llc. So much for Met-Art!

05-04-13  04:29pm - 537 days #22
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Originally Posted by messmer:


By the way, only last week I heard two commentators on CNN (women) make remarks on how much they disliked the word "panties!" Does anyone have a clue why this word would be objectionable to some and if it is, what is its substitute?


Your post reminds me of the film "Anatomy of a Murder".
During the trial the defense is given a pair of panties that they are about to use as evidence and the judge brings both attorneys up to his bench to discuss what term to use knowing "panties" would disrupt the court. Both Jimmy Stewart and George C. Scott were at a loss as to what other term to use.

I can only come up with "briefs". I think this term works for both men and women. I aim to misbehave

05-05-13  11:45am - 536 days #23
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Originally Posted by biker:


Your post reminds me of the film "Anatomy of a Murder".
During the trial the defense is given a pair of panties that they are about to use as evidence and the judge brings both attorneys up to his bench to discuss what term to use knowing "panties" would disrupt the court. Both Jimmy Stewart and George C. Scott were at a loss as to what other term to use.

I can only come up with "briefs". I think this term works for both men and women.


Thanks, biker! Still at a loss to see how the word "panties" could be objectionable to two grown, intelligent women. I understand if at the time of "Anatomy of a Murder" one did not want to talk about a delicate subject like women's lingerie in a court .. but now ... in the 21st Century? Edited on May 05, 2013, 11:48am

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