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02-02-13  06:14pm - 663 days Original Post - #1
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Porn Star gone political activist?

Soooo I loved this girl Jessie Rogers before the horrendous boob job smh
but I recently just saw her on YouTube and it was not what I was expecting.

Instead of some hardcore anal which I would expect from her, she was talking about gun control and has some type of video vlog type thing going on. Apparently from her twitter she has retired from porn and is doing this type of stuff. I am soooo confused but expect her to come back to porn any minute, what are your guys take on this? has any other porn star done something similar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJqXuBPRykk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj6GFHxecfc

02-02-13  07:36pm - 663 days #2
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Originally Posted by Pornfreak358:


expect her to come back to porn any minute,


Gotta pay the bills somehow. She wouldn't make money recording this through her phone

02-02-13  09:26pm - 662 days #3
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Originally Posted by Pornfreak358:


Soooo I loved this girl Jessie Rogers before the horrendous boob job smh
but I recently just saw her on YouTube and it was not what I was expecting.



Well glad she retired as I would not be supporting any site that allowed that to continue. Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe !

02-02-13  10:12pm - 662 days #4
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Maybe she should run for political office. She clearly has a passion. A true neck-lover.

02-02-13  10:47pm - 662 days #5
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Porn stars, and former porn stars, can be considered people. They can have beliefs and opinions like anyone else.

Have any other porn stars retired and tried to promote something other than porn?

Yes, because they don't automatically drop dead once they have retired from porn.

02-02-13  11:32pm - 662 days #6
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She could run for public office - she takes as long to get to her freaking point as most politicians do. I gave up on it before I even heard what she was putting out on the subject, plus she looked terrible.

02-03-13  08:51am - 662 days #7
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At least if she does, what she did can't be dug up as fodder for the media since it's out there in your face to begin with.

But on the practical side, her ability to read her "teleprompter" sucks rocks. She will not do will well with that type of speaking ability. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!
Edited on Feb 03, 2013, 08:58am

02-03-13  10:54am - 662 days #8
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Porn stars, and former porn stars, can be considered people. They can have beliefs and opinions like anyone else.

Have any other porn stars retired and tried to promote something other than porn?

Yes, because they don't automatically drop dead once they have retired from porn.


Absolutely! A true neck-lover.

02-03-13  11:18am - 662 days #9
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I may not agree with her point of view but I was quite willing to hear what she had to say on the subject but she lost me at about the 3:40 mark when she said that Banks, The White House and Police Stations are places with very high security because they have people and possessions that are very valuable and children should have the same security. So basically what America needs is a police state where not the government but armed individuals will uphold the law(at least those not involving guns). Maybe I'm way off on this one but I belive that this is called anarchy. Her speach is basically the key poins the NRA is promoting. More guns, more guns and of course more guns. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-03-13  02:05pm - 662 days #10
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^ After looking at another interview of her, she isn't a citizen of the US - she's here on a permanent residence card, has no voting rights, holds a Brazilian Passport which extremely diminishes her view, especially when she references her rights. She might not be 20 yet and maybe she just needs to go back smoking her spliff.

This has nothing to do with whether I agree or not, just that she has an opinion and it counts for nothing other than it's her opinion.

Her revealing interview here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpE57kvwcj4&feature=share&list=UUsionjcWWL9hdt_IDMfjJBA

She's such a slut If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-03-13  06:04pm - 662 days #11
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^That could change since she is either dating a porn guy or is engaged to one so at some point her view will be as a citizen. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-04-13  05:31am - 661 days #12
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^ She's lived here since she was seven when her mom hooked up with a guy in San Fransisco. I believe should would have to marry the guy and then go through a process. Operative word there is "believe" but I don't thinking having a boy friend will cut it. As a permanent alien status, you certainly can't hold office. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-04-13  12:30pm - 661 days #13
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Not to be rude, but porn stars need to make a choice.
Either close your legs or close your mouth.

It is just the nature of Porn, you can not fuck 12 guys
in and Orgy this morning and tell everyone to save the children in the afternoon.

I personally hate this political crap that stars any star thinks they represent the viewers.

I deleted her file today with several dozen files in it,
I am also not watching the new Slime Stallone movie for the same reason.

Rant over ! Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe !

02-04-13  12:49pm - 661 days #14
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Entertainers are people. People have political opinions. People express those political opinions. None of these things should be strange or weird. Or discouraged either, but that's another discussion for another day (the discussion being the objectification of adult performers to the point where it's a strange thing that they act like normal people).

In fact, it would make sense for her to share her political beliefs after she retires, because she doesn't need to worry about upsetting fans anymore.

02-04-13  02:52pm - 661 days #15
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^That could change since she is either dating a porn guy or is engaged to one so at some point her view will be as a citizen.


That still won't change her date of birth, unless she's been lying about her age (a career-killing risk in the post-Traci Lords world of porn), which her IAFD page lists as August 8, 1993. So, despite Jessie's worry that "they're just trying to take things away from us," as she says early in the video, she's not even old enough to legally buy a handgun for the government to take away.

Also, is she already an American citizen anyway? She keeps referring to "our 2nd Amendment rights" throughout the first video, though I would hope even she would understand that simply being able to buy a gun as a legal resident does not mean someone is a citizen. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-04-13  03:13pm - 661 days #16
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Originally Posted by Dracula:


Maybe she should run for political office. She clearly has a passion.


And the requisite piss-poor interpretation of facts and history that such passion can induce.

Her video doesn't seem to go any deeper than the usual "If the people can't have guns, then the government shouldn't be able to have any either" line of gun nuttery, but she does offer up some other ridiculous nuggets of battiness. Here's one from about the 3:00 mark: "History has proven that gun control is not effective, and has killed a quarter of billion people worldwide, as did Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin".

WTF?! I get the dictator name-dropping, that's almost predictable in any gun argument at this point (Hitler took away guns, Hitler killed millions of people; i.e., since you want to take away my guns, you obviously want to kill people too), but the random body count is way out there. Look, I get that she has done anal scenes before, but that doesn't mean she just gets to pull wild figures out her ass whenever she feels like. It's just debasing the discussion to a level that feels more like a parody than anything that can be taken seriously. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-04-13  03:28pm - 661 days #17
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


That still won't change her date of birth, unless she's been lying about her age (a career-killing risk in the post-Traci Lords world of porn), which her IAFD page lists as August 8, 1993.


IAFD isn't a perfect way to find out the age of a performer. They've been wrong before, and will be wrong again. It's not actually filled out by anyone who would have actually seen her ID with her date of birth on it.

02-04-13  03:36pm - 661 days #18
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


her IAFD page lists as August 8, 1993. So, despite Jessie's worry that "they're just trying to take things away from us," as she says early in the video, she's not even old enough to legally buy a handgun for the government to take away.

Also, is she already an American citizen anyway? She keeps referring to "our 2nd Amendment rights"


I don't know if her birthday is correct but even if it isn't then she must still be getting close to 20 because she started in 2011 and she was 18 at the time. What is the legal age to buy a gun in America and does the age of requirement change from State to State?

I know she was reading from something off camera because she kept on looking at it during her little speach so whoever wrote the text took their information from either pro gin sites or the NRA's own site because all the keypoints she talked about is the stuff they are saying. A lot of it is bull crap but maybe they think that if enough people say it then it will make it true.

There are lots of things that a person who relies on fan approval can fight for which won't adversely affect their capability of making money but this is probably not one of them. This is bound to get talked about and if she wasn't on planning to leave porn then this might definetely help her leave. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Feb 04, 2013, 06:30pm

02-04-13  03:41pm - 661 days #19
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It's been documented that once gun control is in effect, gun violence diminishes. That happened, for example, in Australia after a rash of public multiple murders followed by legislation that tightened the laws on gun ownership along with a "turn in your guns" program.

Whether Jessie Rogers is/was a porn star or isn't/might become a US citizen is completely immaterial to whether her views should be aired. Consideration of them should not be obfuscated by such factors that are irrelevant to the issue.

I very much disagree with her, but she has the right to express what she thinks. And after all, we no longer live so much in a world of separate nations as we do in one of globally interconnected people. So put the flag away. How can you "skip" an ad that's already being shown to you?

02-04-13  03:58pm - 661 days #20
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


She could run for public office - she takes as long to get to her freaking point as most politicians do. I gave up on it before I even heard what she was putting out on the subject, plus she looked terrible.


I watched the entire first video, but I think my brain pretty much gave up when she said "this is getting a little out hand" within the first minute of the video.

Yes, mass shootings in particular and gun violence in general are tragic--is anybody even arguing that they aren't?--but it really isn't getting out of hand. Violent crime overall has been declining in the United States for the last 15 years, and the vast majority of shooting deaths occur outside of the media's emotional bubble, i.e., when the victims are largely affluent, white, and suburban. The majority occur with illegally purchased handguns (and almost never involving the gun control targets of assault rifles, body armor, or even unusual ammunition) in urban areas, frequently as the result of other criminal activities, such as physical violence, theft, gangs, and the drug trade.

Both sides, unfortunately, have their priorities fucked up. The gun lovers turn what has essentially become, if we're being honest, a Constitutionally protected hobby into what some argue is a precious last line of defense between what they view as a free country (gun ownership is protected above everything else) and a tyranny. I think the results of the Waco siege would beg to differ with whomever has the asinine idea that they can stand up to the federal government with a personal arsenal.

The gun controllers target the cosmetics of weapons and have yet to really effectively take on the NRA as the insane lobbying group that it really is, as well as our fetishistic gun culture. There are rational and reasonable arguments for legal gun ownership, but gigantic magazines, fully automatic fire, and open carry aren't the places to start.

And regardless of whatever proof-that-you're-a-real-man firepower you currently own nobody is even seriously talking about confiscation, except the armed paranoids who can't sleep without a weapon in arm's reach. Plus with an estimated 250 million+ privately owned firearms in the U.S. this would be wholly impractical anyway. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Feb 04, 2013, 04:02pm

02-04-13  04:07pm - 661 days #21
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


It's been documented that once gun control is in effect, gun violence diminishes. That happened, for example, in Australia after a rash of public multiple murders followed by legislation that tightened the laws on gun ownership along with a "turn in your guns" program.

Whether Jessie Rogers is/was a porn star or isn't/might become a US citizen is completely immaterial to whether her views should be aired. Consideration of them should not be obfuscated by such factors that are irrelevant to the issue.

I very much disagree with her, but she has the right to express what she thinks. And after all, we no longer live so much in a world of separate nations as we do in one of globally interconnected people. So put the flag away.


Well said Drooler, I agree she has a right to say whatever she likes. The main problem I have with all of these types of debates is perfectly illustrated here - spout of some random, most likely made up statistic to reinforce your point, god forbid we actually use facts.

Much like this homophobic dipshit Campfield from Tennessee that refuses to admit sex education is beneficial (it hasn't been proven, what?!), people need to start to learn the difference between real science and "science", any study that is performed with a predetermined expected result should only be used for toilet paper. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited.

02-04-13  04:36pm - 661 days #22
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Turboshaft asked,"Also, is she already an American citizen anyway? "


Not according to her bobble head interview here:

http://youtu.be/vpE57kvwcj4http:// If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!
Edited on Feb 04, 2013, 05:11pm

02-04-13  05:06pm - 661 days #23
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I son't know if her birthday is correct but even if it isn't then she must still be getting close to 20 because she started in 2011 and she was 18 at the time. What is the legal age to buy a gun in America and does the age of requirement change from State to State?


State laws vary, generally 18 to purchase long guns (shotguns, rifles) from licensed dealers and 21 for handguns (pistols), though some states have 18 as a minimum for both. Federal law is a purchase age of 18 for long guns and 21 for handguns, though for possession (like from private sales or if a gun just happens to fall out of the sky) the age is 18 for handguns and there is no minimum for long guns. Ammo sales are supposed to be restricted and it's based on the belief of the dealer but almost no one requires background checks on ammo or requires a credit card to purchase (police tend to trace ammo to a gun, and a gun to a dealer/registered owner).

Even if Jessie isn't a citizen she could probably still buy a firearm (rifle or shotgun from a dealer) if she's an alien resident (with a valid state photo ID) and passes a background check.

Originally Posted by pat362:


There are lots of things that a person who relies on fan approval can fight for which won't adversely affect their capability of making money but this is probably not one of them. This is bound to get talked about and if she wasn't on planning to leave porn then this might definetely help her leave.


I don't know about that. I would say it's somewhat comparable with the 1st Amendment arguments that some producers make, like Larry Flynt, John Stagliano, or even Max Hardcore, though those guys have had more a stake in it (forced to appear in court) than Jessie making a nonsensical YouTube video. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-04-13  05:37pm - 661 days #24
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Originally Posted by Pornfreak358:


has any other porn star done something similar?


I almost forgot to mention Mary Carey's run for governor of California! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-04-13  06:34pm - 661 days #25
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I don't know about that. I would say it's somewhat comparable with the 1st Amendment arguments that some producers make, like Larry Flynt, John Stagliano, or even Max Hardcore, though those guys have had more a stake in it (forced to appear in court) than Jessie making a nonsensical YouTube video.


Quite true but this is the kind of thing where you could win the battle of Free Speach and still lose the war of popularity. I mean there is nothing deadlier to someone living of their fame than saying or doing something that alienates people. Just ask Mel Gibson. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-05-13  11:51am - 660 days #26
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I am going to disagree with the point she has the freedom to say what she wants.
Its a very interesting and hypocritical issue.

She is a porn star and protected to do what she pleases on screen. Due solely on the 1st amendment.
However she wants to adjust the second amendment ?

Hypocrisy at its finest and is why I am not offended at what she says as much as that she wants to take away others rights why protecting her own !

Sorry , but the constitution is not designed for a double standard. It amazes me how people argue the right to discuss it, but want to change others rights. WOW!!

Ok climbing off my soap box lol. Gees even porn is controversial LOL Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe ! Edited on Feb 05, 2013, 11:54am

02-05-13  12:42pm - 660 days #27
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Just watched the 1st video and damn! She's a hottie, no doubt!
I think she'll get better at making her points the more she does it.

She has as much right to say whatever she wants as anyone here does. Just saying someone else has no right to say what you don't believe is the reason the 1st Amendment IS the FIRST of the rights.

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Originally Posted by t9chome:


Just watched the 1st video and damn! She's a hottie, no doubt!
I think she'll get better at making her points the more she does it.

She has as much right to say whatever she wants as anyone here does. Just saying someone else has no right to say what you don't believe is the reason the 1st Amendment IS the FIRST of the rights.


The constitution is not written in order of importance,
neither were the ten commandments or many other documents.
There exist no evidence to support this hypothesis one right does not supersede another rights. !

Porn exists because of our freedom but when a people who view their own freedom as higher above all others this will end, porn and the rights to view it will end. I do not agree people need assault weapons. But how is it my place to tell a free people they can not have them. Porn, Gay rights or Gun rights are rights people are trying to strip from us. I live in a state where Gay rights is not allowed. I find it myself beyond words that two people who care about each other can not stay together and marry. But laws, the same that want to take, porn, guns and personal rights away from us exist and are growing in control. If I want be Gay sitting with my husband watching porn holding a gun in America who has the right to tell me I can not !!

Sorry guys, we all have rights and I appreciate all of the ones you and I have in the USA. Other countries do not have to understand the USA the Constitution does that for us. But we need to not let our freedoms be lost. Someday, imagine getting arrested for viewing porn?
Video games are already on the consideration for banning as we speak. Porn would be possibly next, as they are already telling people in California where and how they can film and perform sex.

I am not trying to change anyone's mind here. But we as a people better be real careful who we let censor us and take away our constitutional rights away.

Just because someone can do something does not mean they should. Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe !

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Cybertoad - was it me or you that misheard her comments - I thought she was supporting the right to own ANY weapon, which would not butt heads with the 2nd Amendment.

At any rate, the Republicans must be squirming in their chairs, either from excitement or regret. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-05-13  01:57pm - 660 days #30
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


The constitution is not written in order of importance,
neither were the ten commandments or many other documents.
There exist no evidence to support this hypothesis one right does not supersede another rights. !


I believe they were. It's MY belief and I have the right to say it; whether you disagree (or anyone else for that matter) or not.

As long as I live I will always believe it. I don't need anyone trying to prove it wrong or right to continue believing it. Hundreds of millions of US citizens believe it as I do.

I also believe it's your right to disagree and will as long as I live. But I will also know that it is only your opinion.

02-05-13  04:54pm - 660 days #31
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Originally Posted by slutty:


Well said Drooler, I agree she has a right to say whatever she likes. The main problem I have with all of these types of debates is perfectly illustrated here - spout of some random, most likely made up statistic to reinforce your point, god forbid we actually use facts.

Much like this homophobic dipshit Campfield from Tennessee that refuses to admit sex education is beneficial (it hasn't been proven, what?!), people need to start to learn the difference between real science and "science", any study that is performed with a predetermined expected result should only be used for toilet paper.


LOL. I thought I was the only person that uses the term "dipshit," when it is called for, of course.

And just because sex education apparently didn't do anything for the above-mentioned, there's no need to deprive the whole populace of learning the birds 'n bees and how to not get a disease or unwanted pregnancies. (Stress on the "cies.")

I grew up in the '70's and I must say, it was pretty liberal 40 years ago! Even in the red states (though "red" didn't mean that then). What the fuck hell happened? Did the fluoride in the water turn those Republicans into a bunch of social neanderthals? It's amazing! And it sucks, too! How can you "skip" an ad that's already being shown to you?

02-05-13  08:24pm - 659 days #32
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Cybertoad - was it me or you that misheard her comments - I thought she was supporting the right to own ANY weapon, which would not butt heads with the 2nd Amendment.


I also got the impression that she was in favor of less gun control, though I haven't watched all of her videos.

Originally Posted by jberryl69:


At any rate, the Republicans must be squirming in their chairs, either from excitement or regret.


A few maybe, but most of them seem to secretly love sex just as much as the rest of us. But there are always some strange bedfellows in politics--literally and figuratively. From the governor gone missing while "hiking the Appalachian Trail" to the huckster televangelist admitting to buying meth for a male hooker/"masseuse," never underestimate the humbling deviance of our moral authoritarians.

And on the topic of guns, there is a conservative women's group, hilariously named the Independent Women's Forum, who, along with NRA, recently appeared before congress to argue that guns help to make women safer. They sort of have a point, but I'm extremely skeptical of a group that was formed in response to the alleged feminist attacks against Clarence Thomas during his Supreme Court confirmation hearings. That would be like a women's domestic violence group forming to defend O.J. Simpson. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Feb 05, 2013, 09:25pm (turboshaft: used wrong word)

02-05-13  09:24pm - 659 days #33
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Originally Posted by t9chome:


Hundreds of millions of US citizens believe it as I do.


Then hundreds of millions of US citizens are wrong.

It has no effect on people's rights, but the order of the amendments is not based on importance but the way that the Constitution is structured. James Madison, who originally proposed twenty amendments, wanted them added to the relevant section each one amended, but it was later decided to have only ten and add them on at the end instead.

The Virginia Declaration of Rights, which influenced the Bill of Rights, has much the same protections, but is divided into sixteen sections. Interestingly, it does not use the phrase "right of the people to keep and bear Arms," but instead says "trained to arms," in reference to "a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people."

Imagine trying to argue every gun rights case with that wording instead of the way the 2nd Amendment is written. Of course the same section also says "that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty," and I seriously doubt that would have been followed either. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-05-13  09:40pm - 659 days #34
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Originally Posted by slutty:


Much like this homophobic dipshit Campfield from Tennessee that refuses to admit sex education is beneficial (it hasn't been proven, what?!), people need to start to learn the difference between real science and "science", any study that is performed with a predetermined expected result should only be used for toilet paper.


Hey, if this Campfield guy is talking about abstinence-only education, then I might agree with him. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-06-13  07:16am - 659 days #35
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Hey, if this Campfield guy is talking about abstinence-only education, then I might agree with him.


While you can teach abstinence-only as a PART of sex education, you fuck over the rest of the class who embrace their basic human sexual drive and want to indulge. I'm not sure education is all about morals or should be. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-06-13  08:16am - 659 days #36
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Cybertoad - was it me or you that misheard her comments - I thought she was supporting the right to own ANY weapon, which would not butt heads with the 2nd Amendment.

At any rate, the Republicans must be squirming in their chairs, either from excitement or regret.



I am not republican and maybe I was watching her tits and seeing her mouth move and missed the point of her lecture.
Oh like you have never looked at a girls tits and not heard a word she said ???? Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe !

02-06-13  12:06pm - 659 days #37
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


While you can teach abstinence-only as a PART of sex education, you fuck over the rest of the class who embrace their basic human sexual drive and want to indulge. I'm not sure education is all about morals or should be.


If it is taught as only a part then it is not abstinence-only education, it is comprehensive sex education (relatively speaking). But why you would teach abstinence to any teenager with a pulse is beyond me, it makes about as much sense as teaching teetotalism to get them to avoid drinking. It's also much of the same wishful ignorance of that whole "Just Say No" movement from the '80s, coming largely from the same type of puritanical egos who believe in the silver bullet powers of zero tolerance and guilt trip morality.

I agree it hurts the vast majority of kids who know better and realize that their perfectly natural sexual feelings and inclinations are just that: natural. Of course add in some finger-pointing adults on some personal crusade to stamp out pleasure wherever they can and you end up with some truly creepy things like purity balls, purity rings, and virginity pledges. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Feb 06, 2013, 12:09pm

02-06-13  12:51pm - 659 days #38
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Some women, notably sprinter Lolo Jones, have abstained. Hell, even one of the women on the Bachelor wouldn't even kiss on TV. Both these women were 29 years old. So there are some who will resist, though it makes it tough to think at that age you could train them at all.

All things considered, it is an alternative. Sex education should just teach them how to give deep throat and I'd be morally satisfied. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-06-13  04:51pm - 659 days #39
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One day a florist went
to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and
the barber replied, 'I cannot accept money from you, I'm doing community
service this week.'
The florist was pleased and left the shop.


When the barber went to
open his shop the next morning, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen
roses waiting for
him at his door.

Later, a cop comes in
for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill , the barber again
replied, 'I cannot accept money from you, I'm doing community service
this week.' The cop was happy and left the shop.
The next morning
when the barber went to open up, there was a 'thank you ' card and a
dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

Then a Congressman came
in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill , the barber again
replied, 'I can not accept money from you. I'm doing community service
this week.' The Congressman was very happy and left the
shop.

The next morning, when
the barber went to open up, there
were a dozen Congressmen lined up
waiting for a free haircut.
And that, my friends, illustrates the
fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the
politicians who run it. Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe !

02-06-13  07:31pm - 659 days #40
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Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we can identify their corporate sponsors. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-06-13  10:05pm - 658 days #41
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Some women, notably sprinter Lolo Jones, have abstained. Hell, even one of the women on the Bachelor wouldn't even kiss on TV. Both these women were 29 years old. So there are some who will resist, though it makes it tough to think at that age you could train them at all.


If that's what they choose to do, on their own, without all the paternalistic and religious bullshit that's trying to run every minute detail of their lives, good for them. I'm all for people living their lives however it fits to make them happy without infringing on others' right to do the same. But when they start proselytizing it as some sort of "good" way for everyone to live then I have a problem.

Though I haven't yet sat down and watched The Bachelor, the concept of the show, or at least what I understand of it, would make me agree with a lady not wanting to kiss the dude who made it onto the show. "Have a rose and a smile and shut the fuck up!"

Originally Posted by jberryl69:


All things considered, it is an alternative. Sex education should just teach them how to give deep throat and I'd be morally satisfied.


Talk about teaching to the test! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-07-13  07:17am - 658 days #42
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^ The Bachelor is funny because it gives a perspective the other participants can't see. For instance, the girl who is a conniving little bitch, who "plays to win" as if it's a game, and though the bachelor has been warned about her, keeps picking her cause she's a little worm who constantly gives him attention. It's a great show about failure because only one couple (out of 24) who made the end game actually stayed together.

As tv enthusiast, Lincee Ray wrote in the Huffington Post this week, "After 17 seasons, patterns begin to emerge. The competitors slowly fall into their roles and "The Bachelor" archetypes are on display for the world to see and judge accordingly." If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-07-13  07:48am - 658 days #43
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we can identify their corporate sponsors.


Good one ! Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe !

02-07-13  07:52am - 658 days #44
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


^ The Bachelor is funny because it gives a perspective the other participants can't see.


I just could never get into Reality TV, just all was to set up and fake.

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02-07-13  07:40pm - 658 days #45
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


[...]archetypes are on display for the world to see and judge accordingly."


This is precisely why I can't stand much reality TV myself; it's comes off as so cruel and petty. From the child-abuse-as-beauty-pagent spectacle of Toddlers and Tiaras, to the depressing world of Hoarders, to the loudmouthed egotism of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, it's sadism and schadenfreude marketed as harmless entertainment. Something comparable in the porn world would be like saying that what Max Hardcore does is no worse than the way women are treated in a Playboy shoot.

And while people seem to be more concerned about the kinds of people who are willing to go on these reality shows, what does it say about all of us viewers who can't turn away? I'm guessing it makes us feel a little better about our own lives in comparison. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-08-13  06:25am - 657 days #46
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


... it's sadism and schadenfreude marketed as harmless entertainment. Something comparable in the porn world would be like saying that what Max Hardcore does is no worse than the way women are treated in a Playboy shoot.

And while people seem to be more concerned about the kinds of people who are willing to go on these reality shows, what does it say about all of us viewers who can't turn away? I'm guessing it makes us feel a little better about our own lives in comparison.


schadenfreude - good word turbo! - had to go look it up

I think Max and any BDSM is marketed as harmless entertainment.

Since you asked the question "what does it say about all of us viewers who can't turn away?"

For me, I do get off some watching others put themselves into uncomfortable situations and though I never thought about it before, it does make me feel a little better about my own pathetic life, though I hope to never compare the two as equals. I like to view the length that people will go for their 15 mins of fame or getting tied up and flogged for money. Even watching my niche of deepthroating puts women into an uncomfortable position, but then isn't a little sacrifice somewhat titillating?

If you're going to have an exhibitionist you gotta have a viewer. Thank goodness we have a choice about what we want to watch. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

02-08-13  10:18pm - 656 days #47
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Some women, notably sprinter Lolo Jones, have abstained. Hell, even one of the women on the Bachelor wouldn't even kiss on TV. Both these women were 29 years old. So there are some who will resist, though it makes it tough to think at that age you could train them at all.


Don't forget this is also the age of saddlebacking, so perhaps she has been taking it up the ass for years to maintain her technical virginity?

I think this sex education/abstinence only thing is relatively recent, even when I, and most of my friends went to middle and high school we did the whole condoms on bananas crap in the 90s and early aughts - although this was a 'hard' blue state. My guess is this is a result of parents hoping their kids wont do all the naughty things they did when they were kids (which is in itself absurd). Better to show them all the ways not to fuck up their lives, then to just hope they have more restraint you did as a teenager. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited.

02-09-13  06:21am - 656 days #48
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we can identify their corporate sponsors.


Well said! How can you "skip" an ad that's already being shown to you?

02-10-13  10:36am - 655 days #50
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Well said!


As well Gone For Awhile ! Be Safe !

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