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03-15-10  05:44pm - 1496 days Original Post - #1
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Nudity?

OK...

Time for a rant!

I haven't had one for a while, so it is overdue. ;0)

Why the f... can't folk get a grip on the definition of nudity?

Showing naughty bits with clothing pulled aside is NOT nude.
Wearing stockings or shoes is NOT nude.

Nude means NO CLOTHES!

GEDDIT? :0E

OK Rant done....Feel better now! ;0)

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03-15-10  06:59pm - 1496 days #2
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If the non-nudity really bothers you, maybe you can photoshop the clothing/stockings/shoes/whatever out of the picture. Lol.

But if you're dealing with a video, that will be harder to do.

03-15-10  09:22pm - 1496 days #3
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Technically, we're all naked; we just happen to wear clothes most of the time. Don't you just love the vagaries of language. I suggest that Cap'n sit down with the Eskimo's who came up with like 37 different words to describe snow and do the same for nudity. Here's some to get you started:

"Nudity" = your birthday suite
"Nakedness" = small children and Euro types who walk around with no clothing and basically cause no public uproar.
"Streaking Naked" = redundant, I know, but implies someone being nude to get a reaction from the public.
"Freakin' Naked" = someone who is not clothed and ready to get their freak on.
"Fuckin' Naked" = I have to explain this one then you probably shouldn't be reading material on this website.
"Frackin' Naked" = Spaceship nudity in, or absent, the presence of Cylons
"Nudism" = implies an artistic sensibility, like the women who sign up for those nude art classes hoping to some dudes shriveled schlong and attempt to paint it much larger in hopes of not offending anyone and thereby self enabling their own sexual dissatisfaction with their boyfriend/spouse.
"Nudism-gism" = What happens after people have been Fuckin' naked for a while.
"Penumbranudism" = someone who is not entirely nude but revealing more than polite society would like.
"Cameltoedism" = showing the outlines of one's crotch while still wearing clothing, next stop is Freakin' Naked.
"Like2fireonity" = seeing a small furry nude kitty (anyone who actually dresses their cats should be shot) and having suicidal thoughts.
"Capnudity" = a phobia involving the fear of seeing super heroes in the buff.
"Crabbycrotchitynakedness" = what you get when you don't spend top dollar cover charge to see strippers.
"FantasyFreakNudity" = the difference between what your seeing with your long time significant other and what you're wishing you were seeing.

I'm sure there are many more that are just escaping me at the moment ....

03-16-10  12:36am - 1496 days #4
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


If the non-nudity really bothers you, maybe you can photoshop the clothing/stockings/shoes/whatever out of the picture. Lol.

But if you're dealing with a video, that will be harder to do.


Nah, it is just the claim that nudity is featured when really it isn't. :0(

'Capnudity'? You really oughtn't go there! ;0)

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Edited on Mar 16, 2010, 12:40am

03-16-10  03:53am - 1496 days #5
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You see so much stuff around where topless is described as nude. I find it annoying too, Capn. But then at the other end of the scale, you get people who describe something as mild as topless as being porn.

I think there needs to be some sort of governing body for porn which could formalise the terminology. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

03-16-10  10:41am - 1496 days #6
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As I posted in another thread:

'For me softcore goes up to explicit full nudity without insertions.
Hardcore starts with sexual intercourse.
Everything in between falls into midcore.'

I think that is a good starting point.

If we could get review sites to adopt something similar, it might be a start! ;0)

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03-17-10  03:49pm - 1494 days #7
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I like nudity, and ASS! That's at least a rant.5.

But I like stripping, too. Maybe 60% gradual stripping, and then 40% totally, utterly bare-neckit nyood prancing and lolling around and offering the humble viewer them heinycakes.

But that's me, I guess. Weird trick cures gullibility!

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03-17-10  06:18pm - 1494 days #8
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I like nudity, and ASS! That's at least a rant.5.

But I like stripping, too. Maybe 60% gradual stripping, and then 40% totally, utterly bare-neckit nyood prancing and lolling around and offering the humble viewer them heinycakes.

But that's me, I guess.


Yeah, I can go along with that as long as there is something under that dress other than skin! :-)

And cap'n, I agree with you even though we differ when it comes to the end product. I don't mind if a model wears nylons and garter belt and high heeled shoes at the end as long as her naughty bits are fully visible and she spreads a bit and I know you'd rather see her strip to the skin.

Different strokes. However, you are right in your definition: nude means bare nekkid! :-)

03-17-10  07:48pm - 1494 days #9
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I'm less of a purist when it comes to nudity. If all the naughty parts are uncovered and visible then I consider that all nude. A wet anything over the body is not all nude. If part of the naughty parts are covered or hidden then that's partial nudity.

My biggest pet peeve is the term topless or nude but where nudity is implied and in fact is not visible. Case in point would be if they say topless but the breast are hideen behind something and you only see some of it or it's a side boob shot. A nude that I don't consider nude is if it's shot from profile and the angle gives you no frontal shot so all you have is an outline. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-17-10  11:10pm - 1494 days #10
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I think there are some common definitions in porn - nude equals unrestricted bod, especially private parts - If a model has no top on, but covers her nipples with her fingers and crosses her legs so you see no pussy, is she nude?

Technically, yes, you can show skin without privates and be nude - but, considering that most non-nude models have done some pics of that sort - while still considering themselves to be non-nude models, I believe that common definition in porn says that private parts must be shown at least to some degree in order for the pics to be fully nude.

Hustler really changed this definition, I believe, because they brought "showing pink" out of the shadows and forced Playboy to be a lot less demure than they had been - to at least show slits.

As to whether a model is nude if she has on socks, leggings, footwear of some kind, perhaps a belt - yes, according to common definition, if she is naked except for those items and is not blocking visual access to her privates, she is nude.

03-18-10  12:33am - 1494 days #11
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I'm less of a purist when it comes to nudity. If all the naughty parts are uncovered and visible then I consider that all nude.


If it is just clothing pulled aside that is flashing, not nude. ;0)

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03-18-10  07:41am - 1494 days #12
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The ol' Capn (the son of Don Martin) got a point. From this user without much bullshit:
Some want lingerie, some stockings, some pantyhose, some old time panties ect...

AND at a lot a newer porn material more and more girls/models hang on to different kind of 'clothing' throughout the entire clip/photoset.

And thats just fine - to some. But again: I'm on that team too - nudity. I want to watch a new or known model 'stark nekid' - at least in the finals.

Nothing's more beautiful than a completely naked girl... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Mar 18, 2010, 08:03am

03-18-10  08:18am - 1494 days #13
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Originally Posted by Denner:


The ol' Capn (the son of Don Martin) got a point. From this user without much bullshit:
Some want lingerie, some stockings, some pantyhose, some old time panties ect...



Oh yeah, except for the pantyhose!!!! <sigh>

03-18-10  11:27am - 1494 days #14
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Nothing's more beautiful than a completely naked girl...


Some girls can be beautiful wearing nothing but a hat. Or a scarf. Or high-heel shoes.

In fact, the accessories can add a bit of color to the picture, and make the model even more attractive.

Just like a bit of cosmetics (lipstick, eyeliner, whatever). But not too heavy on the cosmetics.

Edit: If the girl is wearing cosmetics (lipstick, whatever), would some of the PU purists consider her to be non-nude?

03-18-10  12:55pm - 1493 days #15
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I would agree that clothing adds colour, but it should be left discarded somewhere in shot, not spoiling our view of lovely nakedness! ;0)

I will let her have make-up on. LOL!

The removal of jewelry can be quite erotic though! ;0)

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03-18-10  07:20pm - 1493 days #16
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Originally Posted by Capn:


If it is just clothing pulled aside that is flashing, not nude. ;0)

Cap'n. :0)


I agree with you. I do not consider pulled aside panties has nude either. I meant as long as there are no clothes in the vicinity of said nudity. An example is if a model is wearing her bra but it's near her navel than I consider that she is topless. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-19-10  07:04am - 1493 days #17
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I got into this discussion a bit late. I like nude, full explicit frontal show it all. Side shots, no way, hands over anything I want to see, no way. However, I have just joined onlytease.com to see if I like it better than I did four years ago. Yes I do, but it isn't what I consider nude or much more than seminude. Is it erotic? Sometimes it is very. I don't know how I feel about nudity anymore.

03-19-10  07:07am - 1493 days #18
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I don't want to put words into your mouth, mbaya, but what I think you are experiencing is an appreciation of the almost lost art of striptease! ;0)

Anticipation is the key....

That is why I even appreciate coy nudity as a prelude to more explicit shots.


OnlyTease would be excellent, IF they regularly continued the sets to full nudity...


...and I DO mean nude!


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Edited on Mar 19, 2010, 07:11am

03-19-10  01:03pm - 1492 days #19
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I agree with anticipation as being erotic. I also feel that onlytease often confuses nonnude with teasing. With teasing I expect to see more delivering than they actually do. Too much sizzle and not enough steak.

03-19-10  01:47pm - 1492 days #20
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That is exactly what I find frustrating with OnlyTease.


They are the worst offenders for misusing the term 'nude' too! :0E

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04-25-10  02:46am - 1456 days #21
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Just a refresher, for those who haven't grasped the definition of 'nude' yet.

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04-30-10  10:42pm - 1450 days #22
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Nudity is truly in the eyes of the beholder LOL

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