Just attempted to subscribe at our listed price and CCBill threw me a curve by wanting CA $32.00 for the first month and then reducing to CA $27.00 the following month. I have never come across this before with any other site. Is this a new business model for CCBill or is it Art-Lingerie's doing? BTW, present conversion rate is 0.983 US $ to 1.00 $ CA.
That price is crazy! $85 for the first month then $50 thereafter.
I don't care if this is a network, that's too much to charge. Maybe it appeals to the fetish crowd. I recognize the names of some of these sites and I didn't even know they were still around. People must actually be paying this much.
There is no way this site should be that much. This looks like cheap eastern European and South American content. What I mean is the talent get paid very little.
That's right dear fellow PU's -especially my fellow europeans compadres for obvious reasons-. They are charging 63 or 66 euros -if i remember correctly the former-, [the reviewer stops to satisfy his obssesive impulses and goes again to the site to see if 66 is the right amount, and...it is 66 euros not 63!]so that puts to rest the association of Ccbill with suspicious billing practices... It's the websites! Khan, was right from the start.
I noticed the webmaster answered several question so I'm going to ask mine in hopes of a helpful answer either from them or from a member of the site.
As weird as this is going to sound I love legs and stockings but get kinda disgusted by feet.
On the site preview I noticed many hot leggings and leg shots but also girls licking toes. The first I love the second I dislike, what is the approximate ration of feet content vs leg related content? Do all or most videos end in a foot-job? Do all girl/girl scenes involve feet kissing?
This site looks attractive, but I wonder what distinguishes it from the other "only" sites that this same company puts out. The tour isn't nearly as good as at OnlyTease, for instance. Sure, it looks good, but it lacks the important details about image dimensions, zips, and so on.
Don't they'd think that people would want such details?
And it is still in connection with the same complaint: too much air brushing, too much photo shopping until the model looks incredibly beautiful but totally plastic. Others must feel the same way because in a recent poll 58% of the subscribers would prefer if they did away with photo shop and presented their models "as is!" Hope they will listen and make the necessary changes soon because this could be a very good lingerie site.
Just saw this newly listed at TBP and it's intriguing. I'm definitely a nylon fan, and IMO the more layers the better... as long as they come off eventually!
I've never been tempted by OT - I like the T but I think I'd find the O merely frustrating. Would be interesting to see how explicit this site is and whether it leaves us wanting... just a shame the preview is fairly poor compared to the other OT sites, there is little sample material to see.
Can someone tell me how this sites rates regarding a genuine feel for erotica? Like legs and feet - I've seen pics of the women massaging the guy's gock with her feet. Is this done in a sensual, tasteful manner, with lots of variety? Or is it repeated formula-cum-fetish substandard rubbish?
I've seen the reviews and it looks good, but I'd like to know these things.
Thanks anybondy who can tell me.
Just visited the site and took the tour. It seems cool, but as it's still new I am not sure about the total amount of content that is available for download at the moment. A review would be helpful I think.
Joined this site believing that membership would give additional access to 2 other sites (Atomic Sweet, She is An Angel). Login details chosen during signup process at Epoch did indeed work at main site (Glamour Flower) signed up to but not at other two. Did what was suggested at faq page ('add ma_ prefix to your username, use same password) but could not get in. Contacted support who told me to do the same thing. Still no joy. Contacted Epoch, who were kind enough to refund my card. Phew, sigh of relief as I'd paid a HEFTY two month non-recurring membership fee of $79.99!!!!!!!!!!! Once bitten, twice shy.
Ah, Epoch! You sign up for the site, then a page appears that gives you your username, password, and member ID. All of these are generated automatically (you don't have the option).
Then the page with that information disappears and it cannot be regained! Then I go to the epoch site and, fortunately since I did manage to copy the member ID I was able to locate the purchase. But the password still isn't there. You have to click to have it emailed.
Do you think that this is hassle enough? It isn't! The email doesn't come!
You don't get this shit with ccbill, because their pages that summarize the purchase do stick around long enough. They don't vanish in a matter of .6 seconds. Whoever thought that was a smart idea ought to get a Wall Street bonus.
Just took the tour and can only say, no way would I subscribe to a site that restricts me to 2 Gigs a day! Add to that the "no zips" (according to our friend's review) and you got yourself a real deal breaker!
It would be so easy to love this site. The videos are great, the girls are great, the lingerie is just what the doctor ordered, yet I look at set after set of pictures that are way too soft and lacking in detail even in High Resolution.
Many people will like this softness just fine but for someone who likes to see every detail of a model's face and body (as well as every fold and drape of the beautiful lingerie) this site is a huge disappointment. I just got finished looking at today's and yesterday's updates, drooled over the lingerie in the preview pictures and once again didn't download a single set for the above reason. I sure wish they would take the art out of this lingerie site. As usual, a purely personal and subjective opinion!
So I have been a member for about four months, and they did offer to lower the price for my monthly membership by another $10. However, by that point I had pretty much run the gambit of what they had to offer. They seem to know where their attrition rate occurs.
Overall I still rank it up there as one of the best porn sites, especially for niche material like what they are offering. I will say that if you are into lingerie at all it is a really great site for that. Tons of hot models in stockings and lingerie screwing each other, guys, whatever. Very hot stuff at all of the pantyhose and lingerie sites. They have a good deal of femdom and gay content as well. Aside from scary makeup from time to time (Russians can be very colorful)all of the models are pretty hot, and the males are all pretty standard. In fact, it's kind of nice because not all of the males are these giant 12" schlong swinging MFs.
It's overpriced, but it really is worth it for a month or two. For the money you will want to download everything in sight. DLMs have a little trouble here because they are constantly reassigning addresses to the material. As long as you get your files within the hour it usually works okay. Don't be fooled by the promises to lower the price, after the first price drop you'll probably have gotten your fill of the place.
Do i regret spending money here? Absolutely not. Would I stay a lifelong member? I wouldn't do that for any site. Most of us have a budget and this one is always going to be one that really strains the pocketbook. If you are ever looking for a great gift for somebody, here you go! I am a heavy downloader (and wanker), and I burned through probably about half of their material in three months. An average user could probably stretch that by another month or two. The other half will likely be niches you are really into. I for one can only watch a girl put on pantyhose, and do nothing else but that, for so long. IF you got the cash, I highly recommend a month or two here, if you are questioning whether it's worth it, I would say yes, but only if you're sure you're interested in at least half the sites there.
I have just joined Art Lingerie, having been longtime member of OAS and a huge stockings fan. I can tell you the members area is in exactly the same format as the OT sites, you can download all the images as zips, they are in the three sizes upt 3000 px wide and also videos are downloadable in HD and hig res sizes.
Quality is as good if not better than OT, and the girls are stunning. All the other features from the OT members area are there, like custom zips, slideshows etc, just no forum.
Quick question for the webmaster or any users... I really like the look of this site, but can't tell from the tour how far it goes? I'm all for nylon-clad legs and feet, but I'd be missing out if the camera doesn't reach a bit higher.
My ideal material in this genre is, after a little teasing girls slipping their hands under the pantyhose and touching themselves, perhaps peeling their nylons off.
Can DDF do wrong? I would go ahead and review this site, but I have several other sites that I have already planned to review. If you love hose, legs, feet this site is for you. Here is the catch, I do like hose, legs and feet, but don't consider it a fetish of mine. Still, I love this site. Great quality videos and pictures. Plus there is more to this site than just women showing their legs. The amount of content is very impressive as well and will take up all 30 days of my membership to explore. Great job on this site that had slipped by me up until a few weeks ago.
I notice that it's been a while since anyone has posted a review on this site. I haven't been a member in years now but have been a member on several other DDF sites the last few years. One thing I've noticed is that there is some recycling of content between the DDF sites (example - an update on 1byday will one month will appear as an update on handsonhardcore a few months later). I was wondering if anyone knows if this is the case with Hotlegsandfeet as well or if they are mostly staying with their own content here.
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