If you want to compare the difference between Epoch and the rip off charges at CCBill here's an illuminating experience. Tonight I received a special offer from Backroom Casting Couch as a previous member for $19.99. I followed the link and decided to join. The $19.99 worked out at £14.88 using CCBill's extortionate currency conversion system, but hey, I was getting a good bargain so I went ahead. Transaction denied, and a link to join through Epoch. Strange. The Epoch join page came up for £12.82. This time the deal went through.
I looked at a mail from CCBill that said my bank had denied the transaction. However the Epoch membership went through at just over two pounds cheaper. That's a whopping great 13% difference in conversion between CCBill and Epoch. Looks like my bank did me a favour and prevented me from being ripped off. Quite accidentally of course, not sure wtf they stopped the first transaction, but it certainly gives you an idea of the difference in value between Epoch and CCBill.
Everything I wrote in my 2012 review still stands except for two things. First, the site has grown a lot and continues to update regularly. Currently there are 105 DVDs on the site.
The site primarily gives access to several seriesí from Mile High / Reality Junkies. These are:
American Tranny (15 Scenes)
Babysitter Diaries (64 Scenes) Big Breast Nurses (41 Scenes)
Charlieís Porn Family (6 Scenes)
Corrupt Schoolgirls (24 Scenes)
Cougarís Prey (43 Scenes) Couples Seeking Teens (71 Scenes)
DP my Wife with Me (8 Scenes)
Filthy Family (52 Scenes)
Girlfriends Get Even (15 Scenes)
MILFs Seeking Boys (24 Scenes)
Momís Cuckold (69 Scenes)
Office Perverts (48 Scenes)
Pornstar Athletics (15 Scenes)
Too Big for Teens (69 Scenes)
You might be able to tell from the titles, but the two best-served niches here are teens and MILFs and there is a lot for both groups. Many of the titles cover both niches in the same scene. Iím more of a teen fan but the number of MILF scenes donít bother me. It does seem a bit odd to have selected two opposite niches to cover.
One niche that isnít common on the site is anal. Thatís a negative for me but I realize thatís a positive for a lot of people. There are currently only 32 anal scenes on the site and those are split between the teen and MILF genres. (This doesnít include the 15 tranny scenes which probably also have anal.)
The update schedule is regular, but also fairly slow with only one scene being added every four days. Given that the site only draws from one studio the update schedule is understandable. I donít think itís a negative, but you should be aware of it if you plan to join.
The other big change from when I reviewed the site is that like all sites on the Fame network the timeouts when using a download manager have lengthened considerably. Before the change it was impossible to queue more than three scenes because the links would time-out so quickly. Thatís been fixed. There is still a time-out limit but it is much more reasonable and allows you to queue 15+ scenes (720p, approx. 1GB per scene), though this also would depend on your internet connection.
Also like all other Fame sites there are a lot of options for downloads and streaming. WMVs are available in 160p, 240p, 360p and 480p. MP4s are available in those resolutions too and are also available in 540p, 720p and 1080p.
Iíd keep the 88 score that I gave it last time and still recommend the site to anyone whoís interested in what is on offer. I canít confirm if the trial is still full and unlimited but the discount price makes this a pretty good value.
One final note: Iím not saying that PinkPanther is wrong in his comment, but I havenít experienced anything like that in the two times Iíve been a member. If that changes Iíll post another comment.
if you are thinking to join this site because of anal content ( like me) beware that anal content is big time cut now. other than bwb, anal is extremely rare. still older anal scenes are out there but new ones are just not coming.
On the members login of bangbros there are a couple of vids that play underneath the username and password part. they are different some times, but I am looking for the video of the blonde girl with the pigtails with her legs up getting fucked. Any help would be great.
Lately they have not been placing the picture zip files until a day or to later, and if you keep track of the up dates or up coming videos, you might notice sometimes the updates are short one update posting. Small draw back, but I did notice a lot of comments on brazzers about there later posting of the zip files. Still a pretty good site for the money. My personal thought.
Some of the male talent on this site completely ruin the scenes.
It's the most frustrating thing ever to see a super hot model, then be presented with the most insanely boring scene you've ever seen because of the terrible male talent, and Bangbros (Monsters of Cock) is getting really guilty of this lately. Charlie Mac - I'm looking straight at you as the main culprit. Seriously, watch some of the more recent scenes he is in with models like Alana Rains and Marry Lynn, scenes that could be 10's on a scale of hotness brought down to a 1 or 2 by the terrible male talent. And I would say whoever is in charge of editing has some blame too.
You don't even get a single look at the girl's pussies in these vids, because it starts with an edited intro into him already fucking the girl, then never pulls his dick out one time during the entire scene for a gape shot or anything, then the final pullout is cut out end of scene. Mindless pumping for 20-25 minutes as interesting as watching paint dry. You need to watch some vids of Shane Diesel, Ramon, or hell even Jack Napier to see how to at least make a scene somewhat interesting. God what a waste of potential some of these scenes lately.....
Iv just joined this site , downloading video,s isnt the problem, when i get to the main page and pick a scene to watch ,the scene doesnt show itself on my tv screen, i get the internet using wi-fi on the ps3 , it seems that the only way to watch a film is Flash video streaming, my ps3 is supposed to have the adobe flash player installed so i cant understand why the films are,nt playing on screen. My samsung tablet plays video,s easily thru flash, anyone out there any idea.s why the films arent playing. .
I'm surprised TBP hasn't blocked this site as they've done with other sites that engage in shady and deceptive business practices. All the other users' warning comments written before mine should be a pretty major indication that something is not right here. I had the same frustrating and expensive experience as other users: I thought I was signing up for one site, but simply by clicking on a video from a site I thought was included, suddenly found myself with an entirely separate subscription to a new set of sites. I'm also 100% sure I unchecked the pre-checked cross sale box upon signing up for the original site, but was still charged for the trial membership to yet another site. All of this meant I now had to cancel THREE memberships when I only signed up for one, and I'm still unsure if one of these sites was even canceled at all, since the specific site name did not show up on the list of cancellation options. They've got some interesting content here, and a lot of it, but I strongly warn people to steer clear until this site engages in more ethical billing practices.
I'll admit that this may be a problem that I alone have, but if you're considering a membership here you should at least be aware of it.
The site offers two types of HD files, on is MPG and the other is WMV. Both are 1920x1280. Both files are around 3GB is size per scene. I downloaded the MPG files and found that there is a lot of stuttering. This occurs with both Windows Media Player and VLC. I've started to replace those with the WMV files and they don't seem to have the same problem.
Like I said, this may be unique to me, though I tested the files with two computers and had the same problem with both.
If someone has some thoughts on what may be causing this I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Great site. Frequent updates, high quality photos and videos.
I have been a member of this site before and had nothing but compliments.
Signed recently and like others are mentioning here recently, you even look the wrong way and you have joined a new site whether you wanted to or not, even though you did not realize they were going to bill you.
Dont even look at this site or any of the other sites in the group or your credit card is in danger.
Interminable waits to log in. . . Literally, MINUTES to switch from page to page, or to play a scene. . . .Support was very cordial, and tried to be helpful (clear cookies, try Chrome or Firefox, etc. - none of which worked), but the bottom line is. . . I have neither the time, nor the inclination to sit there and wait forever for 5- year- old scenes (which comprise 90% of this site and their sister sites - Ghetto, and Hardcore Doorway. . . You`d be better off flushing your money down the toilet - less aggravation.. . STAY AWAY!
has anyone ever really figured out what the download limit is here?
When I reviewed this network a long time ago I couldn't figure out what the download limit actually was. Some days I was allowed to download 12GB, other half that. But other members here said they had no limit imposed.
The clause in the Terms of Reference that is quoted or paraphrased at TBP is that there is a daily limit of 10 gigabytes of data each day, and additionally up to 15 big movies. I emailed the site back in 2011 to ask what that meant and go no answer.
But now the mystery has deepened a bit. I just went back to the site to confirm the wording in the TOS and there is no mention of the limit. I searched for every term I could think that would be used in that clause and got nothing.
So are there any current subscribers who can provide some insight into this issue? In her recent review at TBP, Vanessa doesn't mention it but it is still mentioned in the site stats.
I signed up for Naughty America yesterday (a return for me) because I have always liked the site and wanted to see what's new. At first glance I like the changes they've made, at least most of them.
But in addition to the usual tabs (Home, Porn Finder, Our Sites) they added a new tab, "Specials". When I clicked on it I got a display of several sites that looked like what we usually see as pop-up ads. However when I clicked on one just to see what was offered I found that that one click resulted in my creating a subscription to that site. I found that out when I got a confirming email.
The biller is Epoch. So I used their Chat feature and asked them to reverse the charge for the unintended sign-up. They reversed the charge so no harm no foul.
However, it's a new "trick," sort of like the old game of cross sells, that all PU's who are Naughty America members need to watch.
Is anyone else having problems logging in to the Bang Bros Network?
I subscribed to the Network a few days ago and I have had nothing but problems with this site. I cannot login or even access their Customer Support. Every attempt to login or access Support ends with an error message stating "This Website is Unavailable".
Before anyone asks, yes I am using the correct user ID and password and no my cap locks is not on.
This site is part of the Naughty America family and it is not worth the price. The site feature only 26 videos which are higher quality but for the $20.00 price this site is not worth it. The site features a handful of girls and live shows which are of course pay. No other options are available on the site it is very sparse.
I actually purchased it on accident by clicking on the ad and it was a costly one.
I have now noticed for several days, that the download limit is by around 5/5.5 GB a day (June 2013). After that amount you are blocked for 24 hours. It makes this network really not very userfriendly!!
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