I wonder how many lovers of mature women do not subscribe to this site because the water mark is too big, too brash and too destructive to the pictures (placed in the wrong spot). This glaring self-promotion might be tolerable on the first picture of a set but on every single pic? Webmaster, if you are looking .. I would be a subscriber if you ever decided to reduce the logo to a more modest, more unobtrusive size.
I noticed in your review that you mentioned the intrusive watermarks. See my remarks below, so thanks. Maybe one of these days the webmaster will take notice and people like me who hate their big yellow glaring logo will be able to subscribe.
Thieves! Make Sure To Watch Your Credit Card Statement.
Net-Member and ScoreGroup are thieves and con merchants.
Received an email from them at Christmas with an offer saying if I came back I could have this all for $19.95: Scoreland, a free website my choice, and 30mins of Video on Demand.
Signed up using the offer link in the email.
February, (I missed them doing it first month). I find they have charged me for the free site!
Immediately I emailed and complained they, responded that I am a member of two sites and they charge on the same day. And get back in touch if I want to cancel one of them.
I emailed straight back showing them the offer they emailed me, it was ignored. I emailed net-member. It was ignored. In the last week have sent something like 20 emails to Scoregroup and net-member and all of them have been ignored.
I have had to go to my bank and do the embarrassing thing of a Chargeback of these two fraudulent double charges.
Don't Touch Them, and To ScoreGroup, Don't send people goddamned offers you don't intend to honor!
Check my Bottom Line in my Website review to see the full email they sent me with this Christmas "Offer".
I just reviewed the site, and instead of changing the score, Ill just say it here. TONS of videos I downloaded are now not working properly, even when I try to play them in different media players. I kind of think Hustler did this on purpose...or maybe they are just stupid and fucking lazy.
Either way, be extremely cautious. If you are looking to stream their vidoes, it may be worth joining, but there are other sites you can do that on. If you are looking to download, then youve been warned. Id personally suggest alternative means of getting their content.
Borderline scam IMO. Content may be good but everything else is meh or worse.
One comment I would add, in addition to my review:
I noticfed Sunday evening that when I did download a video, HD is NOT available in the download section. I believe you need to subscribe to Score HD and this is where the HD video downloads are housed. You can stream the videos in HD but cannot download them. I checked a number of recent video updates to make sure this was the case.
As I am not a big Video guy, this is not an issue for me(mostly). However, I believe this might some people might be rubbed the wrong way, especially if you are used to HD quality downloads. I also think that if this is true, the site owners might make this more clear on the members signup screen and advertising. The HD label appears on the videos, but it does not say you cannot download HD video but only stream them.
I would advise those interested in HD video to subscribe to Score HD if HD video is your primary interest.
Given the cost of subscriptions, HD should be available. IMO, this is a bit misleading but I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt. My opinion is that this is a cross-sell marketing strategy but that is just my opinion. I won't knock them for doing this as it is a good way to cross-sell their sites. I just wish they would be upfront in the member area at Scoreland that HD is NOT available for download there.
Easier to build a collection of playmates through newsgroup.
Even though many of the photos of playmates are available at this site, it's easier to build a collection of playmates through a newsgroup than it is through Playboy PLus.
The collection will also be more complete through a newsgroup.
The problem with a newsgroup is that you have to learn to use a newsreader, and pay for the newsgroup access, and a few other methods you will have to learn.
But for fans of past playmates, a newsgroup offers more complete files (in photos, not in videos), and an easier method of collecting and sorting your photos.
It's been many years since I belonged to a newsgroup, but Playboy Plus made me realize that poor site structure (and other problems with the site) makes newsgroup access a worthwhile alternative for collecting Playboy material.
But there is a lot to learn about how to use a newsgroup effectively.
I like to cancel my memberships with enough time between the date I cancel and the date that access ends.
It was with this in mind -- too much in mind, as it turned out -- that I "cancelled" at Penthouse, because there, you don't "cancel," you close the account. So I did.
Well, I can't blame anyone but myself for the results: immediate lost access. And my subscription term wasn't completely over. Oh, f-- oh, well. "Close the account" is clear enough language, I believe. Maybe I should switch to a stronger coffee brew.
So this little cautionary tale is for anyone else who might (?) make the same mistake I did? Anyone?
Just a warning for Europeans, yep a extra $5 please
Yet another site I thought argh maybe this site will be worth a join but no yet another one charging us Europeans a sur-charge for not living in the US, great, another one I'll pass on then.
Might not be a big deal to some people but there you go, just a reminder to those joining from Europe you will pay more $29.99
When I first started watching porn, you guys were the first adult films I watch, just cuz of all the very young beautiful hot girls with the innocent look!! I love their cute little ass and petite little frontal bodies!! The sex scenes are rock hardening!! But the one thing that always breaks my concentration is the cumshots!! I don't care what those other viewers say about how good a facial cumshot looks, I am not interested in watch a man jerk his beef off into a girls face!!! First of all, when that occurs, all you see is the girl's face and his meat stick!! NO PART OF THE GIRL'S BODY IS SHOWING!! Second, when I am having intercourse with a girl doggie-style, and her jiggling gorgeous ass is all on up against my body, that is where I am going to place my cumshot, RITE ON HER ASS!! I CANNOT NOT STAND FACIAL CUMSHOTS AND THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY AND THERE ARE SICKENING!!!
Consider this an update to my comment of Sept. '07.
The server speed has gotten snappier, but the webmastering problems are still all over the place:
-Inconsistent thumb sizes (often too small, sometimes larger, sometimes a nice large size). At least one recent gallery mixes small thumbs with actual pics! (Check your work, dammit, baby!)
-Inconsistent zips: sometimes all-in-one, sometimes each page has its own zip file.
-Incomplete labeling: In their full lists of updates by month, you can choose solo, g/g, hardcore, or all but in the listings you don't always know if they're going to be videos or photos, without doing extra clicking to find out
-Same old "1600px" photos in portrait orientation that are only 1200x790. THAT's consistent!
I even tried a 800x600 from November 2007 and y'know what? 399x600! Anyway, who the hell wants 800x600 these days? You've gotta be kidding!
They can't even keep the names straight. Clicked on the link to a "Heidi Lee" gallery and she turned into Tecey Heart.
I even came upon some ... broken links! And these were in 2007. And for a gallery (video?) in Dec. 2006 (where I'd last left off), the link took me to the updates for April 2008! (WTF?!)
When I see such things, and so many of them, the thought is "Oh, boy. Well, I guess I can't expect too much from this site." Know what I mean?
(I'm just not gushing over it like they did at Rabbit's. Know what I mean?)
Here is a lesson:
We keep looking for good sites - but sometimes we forget our past joins - and by mistake I joined Watch4beauty again - stupid me...(my own fault, by all means)
Reason: The site is selling it self well, too well - a WOW-preview and foremost GREAT models - but the site has turned more weird than ever... remember those pretty strange "hard colors" at Pier999 - Watch4beauty is getting worse - much worse..
And as a vids fan it's down right BAD.....we've had discussions about some site a bit to much art - for vids this site is now worse than some art exhibition with some snobs commenting lines and colors...and how much this looks like Picasso.......jeez.
This is not even softcore - If I'd want material like this, I could go to an art museum....sad with the potential/models...
I tried to sign up this AM and only the $29.95 option is presently listed for a 1 month recurring option. That stinks because this looked like a pretty good deal. Oh well.
The current PU score for Hustler is 72.9, the TBP score is 82.6. That is a big difference, One reason might be that the TBP score was given Nov 4, 2006. The PU scores are from more recent reviews. Actually, if TBP was following PU rules for scoring, Husler would have no TBP score, because the reviews would have expired, and the scores based on those reviews would have expired as well.
A second reason for the difference in scores is that PU members mainly have an aversion to DRM.
Hustler videos were until recently DRM protected. That would have lowered the score massively for many PU members, or they would have avoided the site altogether.
bruce987 writes in a comment dated 04-26-09 that Hustler has removed DRM 3 months or more earlier.
But TrashMan writes in a review dated 01-24-09 that "Downloads have DRM".
james4096 in comment dated 04-22-09 writes, "It does seem like they have removed DRM on their wmv videos....but the video quality still stinks in most videos."
Webmaster reply 02-28-09, "we removed all DRM protection a couple weeks ago".
This is another site where the watermarks are way too big and intrusive, at least in the picture sets. Who wants to stare at a company advertising itself in the most conspicuous places when you've paid to see an unmutilated, unobstructed picture. It's as bad as 40something.mag. The moment they'll reduce their self-promotion I'll be happy to subscribe. The models seem to be fine!
Have been checking out w4b with their new "5000px" feature -- prominently displayed on their homepage. Not all of the pics go to this size, but many do, and some older ones top off at various smaller sizes (2400, 2560, 2880, 3600 etc.).
The trouble is, some of the pics are REALLY BLURRY. (Was that a cloud that just passed by my monitor?)
All in favor of BLURRINESS (head, backside, or TOTALLY as it is sometimes at this site), say "Aye!"
And BTW, not all of the pics are "exclusive," as some have shown up at MetArt, Babelicious, etc -- where they're generally better in quality and size. cc: theBestPorn.
Finally, w4b offers "unlimited downloads," but it makes you log in over and over! So add "relentless hassle" to that. It's just a so-so site, I think.
Here's a unique offer - W4B is now offering a deal where you can buy a subscription and get another subscription for a friend free.
There's a tag in the upper right hand corner that says "W4B Special Offer" to take advantage of this.
I haven't looked to see if your friend's sub recurs or is only for the first period that you pay for, but this is a new one to me for pay internet sites, though Playboy has sent out offers like this by mail around the holidays for years.
Some of us talk about sites going downhill - like a snowball headin' for hell......
Really liked this site - ONCE!
Now I joined again - should have not - no reviews since 2009.
And what do we get:
very nice pix and very clear vids - and that's it.
BUT the way they make those vids lately:
One horrible example is cute Ferrara Gomez/Jessica Koks - here "Viviene" in the vid "Bed Pussy":
Max 2 minutes with cute Jessica on a bed - then the entire rest of the video ONLY totally close-up of pussy - fingering/dildo - IT COULD BE ANYBODY...
And Jessica is certainly not the only one with this poor way of filming!
This is it for me concerning Watch4Beauty...a bummer...
Bottom line:
I'm fed up with spending money on sites I used ot like - and naively thought is still good.
I saw a posting on another site that Hustler has stopped using DRM on its videos. I can't confirm this but if it's true that is good news and yet another sign that companies are starting to realize that DRM can't stop people from downloading and that it chases potential customers away.
Many people have already pointed out the good stuff and the bad so I won't do a review, just go over the stuff that I encounter and thus add my 2 cents...
-not enough photos
-sometimes frustrating to navigate
-some videos cannot be downloaded
-DRM is not in effect anymore. See reply #1 from webmaster
-a pretty decent price
-a lot of interesting videos such as the This ain't series (this ain't star trek, this ain't happy days, etc.)
-a lot of pron that clearly has a large-ish budget behind it. Quality stuff all and all, but the DRM is frustrating...
I highly recommend the trial here. Tons of material to go through, and most of the newer stuff, both pics and vids, are of excellent, if not top-end, quality. Zips available for pic-sets, and single-file vid downloads. If you like big breasts (oh come on, admit it!) I can't see how 7 bucks would be ill-spent on 3 days pickins' from all this material. I will go for the full month some time in the near future.
edited to add: browsing-fun is limited because you can only see the big pics if you download the zip file, but that's no biggy. Navigation can be a hassle, but once you get used to it it's a breeze. For newer Score vids, go to the last pages, not the first pages. In other words, page eleven has newer stuff than page one.
Get this...when you hit the join button, you get taken to a page that says "Join For Free". Oh Boy, I better sign up right now!!! So you send in your email address, risking spam, and you get your magic password! Then everything you click on leads you to the real join page! Shame on you Penthouse for this antique P.T. Barnum sales technique---straight out of the 1970's porn world. It turned me off so much, I decided not to join.
I had planned on joining Watch 4 Beauty next but on hitting the CCBill sign up page i discovered that due to regional pricing they wanted to charge me the equivalent of $35 for the priviledge so i wrote to their support address to let them know my displeasure and that they'd lost potential custom because i'm not willing to pay more for simply living outside the US. This is their reply:
Hello, price on our site is displayed without currency. Depends on country, price is 29.95 USD or 29.95 EUR. I am very sorry about that but we have respect some uncomfortable rules in European Union. All the best, JiriW4B Adminwww.watch4beauty.com
Uncomfortable European union rules....WTF???
Their arguement doesn't really stand up anyway because what i'm charged in pounds does not come to 29.95 in dollars or euros so its definately misleading.
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