When you join a site and want to cancel re-billing, it got to be smooth...
But this site certainly makes it hard:
When joining, I could not see which billing co. was in question - AND never got a mail back - so luckily I could remember the chosen login/password.
And when trying to cancel rebill, I have 7 choices of billing co. and all of the DDF-sites to choose from - none of them worked - and it took a hell of a time to go through all.
Finally had to write a mail to support - waiting for response, now.
Been a member here a LOT of times in the past - but never been through problems like this before.......for a simple cancel of rebill!!!
warning, there is a hidden x sale to the site argentinatriplex.com
"one day trial to a subscription renewing every 1 month(s)
Geschäftsbedingungen: Heute wird folgender Betrag belastet: €1.51 für einen Versuchszeitraum von 1 Tag(e).
Die Mitgliedschaft erneuert sich automatisch zu €23.28 jeden 1 monat, bis storniert wird. "
a joke or a drama? or talking is silver , silence is golden
that no one can say, that i always critizise i have to highlight one thing out: the support reacts on emails...
..but how they react is like a joke or like a drama:
here are the facts:
24.03.10 email support: why did you cancel (shorted)
24.03.10 respond: not authorized crossmail (shorted)
24.03.10 email support: "so you are saying the checkbox got automatically checked?
we dont have access to the join page.. so i guess you should contact the biller about this issue..
may be you didnt notice it.. dunno..
i will give you an extra free month to make up for the mess even thou it wasnt our fault really.."
ok, so far so good.... i tried to login to the site to see if they keep theire promise but.... BAD LOGIN ... hm, wondering....
30.03.10 contacting the support: thanks for extra month, can`t come in (shorted)
06.04.10 email support: "OK mate i dont know what to tell you at this point, there is no such thing as "automatic double membership" on our sites...
i promised an "extra" free month... what do you mean never gave acccess to argentinatriplex???
your torbenetwork login doesnt work on it? if you were signed up for both sites you should have acccess..."
....what can i say... reagarding that correspondence i rather prefer support who is saying nothing :) ..promising an extra free month is fine but if the membership is cancelled then there is no possibility to check in...
the bottom line???
promises are made easy..taking money from members is much easier ..THUMBS DOWN
Along with bigger and bolder looks, this site got credits added few days ago. One can buy those with real cash starting from 500 for 4.95$ and up to 40% savings with bigger purchases.
For roughly 300 one can buy a scene to "own" it, meaning that he/she has access to it even after subscription ends. Don't know how usefull that is since I consider all downloaded scenes "owned" by me as well but might interest some so it's all good.
You also earn 10 credits per day of membership and in the future you can supposedly subscribe to the site itself with them. Probably means you have to cancel your recurring one first though which means losing any loyalty bonus but we'll see.
New things that take nothing away never hurt. I would love to see a chance to use those points on 21Sextury's partner sites. It'd reduce the stress with credit card when you could access other sites from one you already are a member to.
Three months ago I reported here how rapidly the Customer Support staff at 21Sextury responded to an issue. I love the content of their site and have been a member for a long time and their response to my issue was outstanding.
Unfortunately their Support function appears to have changed.
Suddenly, and with no warning, my access to the main site, 21Sextury, was locked right after the last monthly billing was processed. I now have access only to 21Sextreme.
Although I sent an email and submitted three customer support tickets, there has been no response of any kind other than acknowledgements that they have received my tickets, nor has there been any correction of the issue.
I am posting this comment here because I'm interested in finding out if others are also experiencing the same problems with the Customer Support function at 21Sextury.
I clicked on the PU link to DDF Prod page and tried to sign up, but the price shows 26.95 euros (per month) which is around USD$38 right now. So I input my logon info thinking the price would be reduce when I enter my cc info. But then a popup said the price option chosen is not available right now.
Joined primarily for the new Zuzana Z hardcore material, which was pretty underwhelming, but even aside from that this place in general seems to be going downhill. The updates are pretty frequent, but I find the model quality vastly inferior to 1byday's heyday of a few years ago.
Should have read my own comment from last year and not wasted my well earned birthday cash here... Oh well, I think this was their last and final chance for me, don't think I'll be coming back.
In September, I checked out the site. On the homepage it said there was a special price for today only of $9.95. However, it was nowhere to be found except on that page. I contacted the webmaster Brainpat, who told me the special was only for Wednesdays and it was now Thursday. It WAS listed on the site Thursday morning. I feel that not honoring the price was a ridiculously poor business decision. If I had a customer in my store with money in his hand, wanting to buy from me, I would have honored a reasonable request. After all, I did not put up the special price notice, they did. Telling me that they never had a complaint before is not only hard to believe, but the wrong thing to say to a potential customer. I took that as smug sarcasm.
If you are like me and feel compelled to download every ounce of porn you can get you will be frustrated to find that this network of sites has a fair amount of double posting. I have run into a lot more than I would like to have. This makes downloading efficiently a bit of an issue.
"handsonhardcore-7913-1.avi" is a typical name. The only difference from site to site is the name of the site, the numbering is the same. So when they post a video on more than one site the "7913" part is the same. This make it possible to spot doubles if you are looking.
I downloaded from DDFBusty first then went to Eurogirlsongirls. So in that case I downloaded everything from DDFBusty, then when at Eurogirlsongirls I only need to watch for doubles when the women have breasts D cups are larger. I then went to Euroteenerotica I watch for lesbian scenes and busty women. At first this is not too hard, but then I moved on to handsonhardcore and now I pretty much have to check every scene because there is a always a chance it was posted at a site I previously downloaded.
So, use your head a little and check the video numbers and you should be able to avoid most of the double content. The sites really should mention on each scene's page where else it is posted to help avoid this.
I guess I should have paid more attention to what the bonus points for past and present membership actually get you. I had enough credits accumulated to download two, three videos (I thought) and just found out that the bonus points are for "streaming only." I am sure everyone else is aware of this, but I've always been impatient when it comes to the small details, so, to me, the points are now wasted and another reason not to re-subscribe. I mean, if I see a scene by Blue Angel or Faye Reagan or some other hottie I don't just want to watch the video for twenty minutes, I want to own it!!
I wonder how many of you see this as a genuine, valuable bonus? And I won't get mad at you if you like streaming just fine! I am asking from idle curiosity.
P.S. See my reply to Pat (Feb.07) on how the whole thing finally resolved itself. With my apologies to 21Sextreme.
Thieves! Make Sure To Watch Your Credit Card Statement.
Net-Member and ScoreGroup are thieves and con merchants.
Received an email from them at Christmas with an offer saying if I came back I could have this all for $19.95: Scoreland, a free website my choice, and 30mins of Video on Demand.
Signed up using the offer link in the email.
February, (I missed them doing it first month). I find they have charged me for the free site!
Immediately I emailed and complained they, responded that I am a member of two sites and they charge on the same day. And get back in touch if I want to cancel one of them.
I emailed straight back showing them the offer they emailed me, it was ignored. I emailed net-member. It was ignored. In the last week have sent something like 20 emails to Scoregroup and net-member and all of them have been ignored.
I have had to go to my bank and do the embarrassing thing of a Chargeback of these two fraudulent double charges.
Don't Touch Them, and To ScoreGroup, Don't send people goddamned offers you don't intend to honor!
Check my Bottom Line in my Website review to see the full email they sent me with this Christmas "Offer".
One, I don't really have any complaints with the new format of the 21 Sextury network except that they helped me find out I have a 1 TB download limit with my ISP in a month! There are still some glitches here and there. I haven't ran into movies not playing. The movies are working fine, but I have clicked on maybe ten or so photo sets that say, "Media files uploading try again later" or something like that and some of those are more than a few years old so I have trouble believing those are still uploading.
Note to the webmasters if looking for these, found 3 that did it in the Anetta Keys photo sets. One set I believe is a duplicate where the video was remastered with Sophie and Sandy, believe it is "Ice Cream Girls" or something ice cream.
Also wanted to comment on the "backstage" video sets. As unlikely as I thought it would be that I would say this, I'm going to, I have found some of these pretty good. It seems to all depend on the model and based on that, you have to have a feel for the model's personality before knowing which would be good in backstage videos. Regina Ice's personality really shows in the backstage sets. I would say the different backstage sets I've seen of her have lifted her into my top 10 favorite models. Seems like a really fun, playful woman. Of course, some of the backstage videos are just boring, but I'm not going to overlook those anymore.
Also like with my other comment on a site very similar to this one, I'm glad to see that 21 Sextury is still bringing in new models, a few I've discovered during this membership, Lioness, Daysie, Willa (may be late to the party on her) and with the separation of the more extreme niches, it's all but guaranteed that I'll be staying around at least for 3-4 months just to check out all the bonus sites. Sure beats the days of paying $45 for just Club Sandy and Pix and Video. And lastly, as I had mentioned in my Nude Fight Club review it's very rare that you'll see a network like this one that has a model index that works. This one, to the best of what I can see does work and is accurate. Clicking on a model and seeing 100+ scenes from 6 different sites in a network is pretty impressive.
Always wanted to sign up and finally bit the bullet but unfortunately nothing works. No pic downloads, video downloads fail due to session failure and video streams are missing. And this is with almost every browser you can think of, all cookies enabled.
I just received a special offer that would give me this site for free if I re-subscribed to ATK Natural and Hairy. I know I haven't been too complimentary when it comes to the latter but if Archives is any good it would be worth considering the offer.
So, here's the question: Does "archives" stand for mainly outdated formats like 800x600 px for picture sets and 640x480 for videos, or is there newer stuff to be found? Thanks!
Again I found the network would not load but the issue is with the DNS records. The DNS servers for my office ISP, the ISP I use in my flat and the ISP in my girlfriends place all cannot resolve www.pornpros.com to their server IP addresses resulting in a server not found error when trying to view them. If you have problems like this I suggest using www.opendns.org for your DNS servers instead. I had been using opendns on another network for a while and find them to be very stable and fast, it's worth switching even if you dont have this specific issue.
I'm not sure who's fault this is but this is the first site that I have had this problem with and its been going on for a long while.
Downloads don't even start. Downloads stop halfway. The site goes down.
I joined 20 hours ago this site and i've barely managed to download 4 videos. Often downloads don't even start or commence, other times when a video is about to be fully downloaded the download stops, thus you can open the file but you can't skip forward the video because you couldn't download the whole file. The site goes down when you try to refresh the site often. So far it's been a very dissapointing experience. Customer support replied, not very fast i must say, stating that they checked the site and there are no problems whatsoever, asking what type of connection do i have or which particular scenes did i have trouble downloading.
I have been a member to: hotlegsandfeet three times; once for a six month stint, ddfbusty, handsonhardcore, and last september to this new network for a month, so i believe that custommer support should be more responsive. The network is great, don't get me wrong, and it should be at the top of the list of any pornuser, yet, this problems are really aggravating, and the REGIONAL PRICING tactics are not welcome.
Meanwhile, i've downloaded big files from other sites without a problem , so, it is not a problem with my connection. I'd like to add that download speeds could be better to.
Having never been a member of any DDF-sites before, I joined yesterday and it quickly dawned on me what a gargantuan task I was in for. The amount of content for a first time visitor to go through is overwhelming, for every four models there's at least one where I'm inclined to get everything just from looking at the portraits.
Originally I signed up just to start my collection of the busty tattooed girl Dominno's videos, but now I've gotten those (btw noticed the issue with the same videos being on several sites, really annoying that you have to carefully compare screenshots to make sure you haven't already got it) and am now facing the challenge of picking out the next models to get from among hundreds of others.
Rather unhelpfully, the search function doesn't seem to work for me it just sends me outside the members area so I have to log in again, clicking a single tag on an update works though, but it doesn't help a lot.
Anyone have some recommendations for models I should be particularly aware of? Not just pretty ones (since a spectacular amount are at least that), but some known to be good enthusiastic performers?
Just got a mail:
"Free Membership for Loyal Members"
Then it goes on:
"We've automatically upgraded your old account into a free member account."
Hey, wow - a PU thinks.......and you log in - with your e-mail and new password - BUT: What the f...!!
No way to get anything - then after realizing this is shit - you get the message: Account not found!
"Your subscription has expired! Please feel free to renew your membership on the settings page. As a gift for your loyalty, we are happy to offer a 20% discount on your subscription fee in case you purcase an annual membership."
Man, really - what kind of policy is this........I'll go elsewhere. Jeeeez.
... when I resubscribed to this site. Out of 14 updates across the board this past week, out of 36 sites, 7 were non HD low quality videos. I remember a time when non-HD content was quite good but nowadays the quality appears to have gone downhill.
Not only that, but they stop updating sites arbitrarily. The weekly update for Old Young Lesbian love was due yesterday but never showed up. I know they were toying with the idea of letting this site go to sleep but, in that case, they could at least add a new site to make up for it. Other sites like Zoliboy used to be raunchy but have now switched to much milder material that would be quite at home in its sister site 21Sextury.
In any case the longer I look the more I am appalled that so many of the 36 sites are still producing low quality material. I would now say that this is a good site for a one time subscription only, because a long time subscription will bring a lot of boredom and frustration with it.
This will be my last time with 21Sextreme unless most, if not all, content is being offered in HD in the near future.
I just surfed through some Latex Fetish lists in order to search for new interesting sites. There were many links to "sample pictures" from Adult-Empire.com with a lot of pictures I know from other sites but with deleted watermarks. They obviously claim it's their stuff. Massive copyright infringement? I am stunned.
I think this site has taken a couple of hard knocks recently and doesn't really deserve a rating as low as 60. Granted Denner's comment about the pricing is an issue - I addressed that on the Porn Pass For All page - it is confusing, but a little patience lets you work out the system pretty easily.
nadiencendia's review complains that the models are "unknowns" and "regular chicks" - I think unknowns are good thing and I'm personally a fan of models from Thailand and was impressed the selection this site has. The entire site is dedicated to Thai models and the content appears to be exclusive - I've actually seen that some of the models are also on Asian Apple Seed. Granted SOME of the models aren't that attractive - I personally feel the majority of them are quite beautiful.
If you are expecting standard Japanese or Chinese girls - your not getting that, these girls are distinctively Thai. And at 33 videos (most with photos too) - while it isn't a huge archive - it is reasonable, especially since you get the rest of the network with it. I haven't perused the whole collection thoroughly enough for a full review, but I'll be posting one quite soon. Just figured I'd leave this note for those thinking of joining. Another interesting factoid: Many of the girls do anal.
If you like Thai girls, definitely check it out - you get 32 other sites with it!
I'm still getting emails from them after unsubscribing from them two years ago. From the looks of it they've completely changed everything in their site, but refuse to stop sending me their junk emails.
Too fucking bad about it. The site has some of great scenes and the new material makes it even better...
but FUCK THIS! I CAN'T TRUST THEM. Maybe they sell DVDs.
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